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View Poll Results: If old Vitali beat Haye in 2013 would the Klitschko haters give him credit?
No, no matter what he does they will always hate him 15 48.39%
Yes, they'll then be fair and give the old man the respect he deserves 12 38.71%
I'm not sure 4 12.90%
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Old 12-26-2012, 12:46 PM
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He is.

But many of the Klitschko haters regard him as a somebody, don't they?



I'd only count Haye as a somewhat meaningful win for Vitali because he's age 41 and has clearly faded.

If age 38 Vitali had fought and defeated Haye in September 2009, when Haye agreed to fight him, it would have been a meaningless win over a nobody.
So in other words, you believe it would be a meaningless win. Ok
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Old 12-26-2012, 12:55 PM
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So in other words, you believe it would be a meaningless win. Ok
In 2009, beating Haye would have been as meaningless as him beating Kevin Johnson.

But because Vitali is old and faded now, it's somewhat meaningful.

Foreman beating Crawford Grimsley would have been absolutely meaningless in the 1970s, when Foreman was in his prime. Grimsley was a nobody.

But because of Foreman's advanced age, and Grimsley being about the same age Haye is now, it was somewhat meaningful at the time.

Savvy?

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I would give him credit if he beat Haye same as I did to Wlad, I honestly believe a 100% ready Haye beats them both.
You beat Wlad?

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Dont know what you talking about their buddy
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In 2009, beating Haye would have been as meaningless as him beating Kevin Johnson.

But because Vitali is old and faded now, it's somewhat meaningful.

Foreman beating Crawford Grimsley would have been absolutely meaningless in the 1970s, when Foreman was in his prime. Grimsley was a nobody.

But because of Foreman's advanced age, and Grimsley being about the same age Haye is now, it was somewhat meaningful at the time.

Savvy?

Somewhat meaningful because Vitali is old and faded? Is Vitali the #2 HW or not?
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Somewhat meaningful because Vitali is old and faded? Is Vitali the #2 HW or not?
Probably not (but even a faded Vitali is better than bums like Manuel Charr).

Vitali is not in my top 10 P4P now, because he honestly hasn't looked good in his past two fights.

He's age 41 and faded, he can't put fast combinations together anymore. I think Price, Pulev or even Fury would have a good chance of beating him now.

I'd sooner he have his farewell fight against one of those three, all decent chaps (Fury talks a lot but he doesn't mean it, he's not hateful like Haye).

I'd hate to see Vitali lose his final fight to a douchbag like Haye.
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