Bookmark Website  | Free Registration  | The Team
Boxing Champions |  Boxing Schedule |  Boxing Video  |  Boxing History   |  Pound For Pound  | Lounge  | The Wire |  Audio  | Arcade

Navigation
Go Back   Boxing Forum > Boxing Forums > Non Stop Boxing
Reply
Thread Navigation

#21
Old 12-23-2012, 04:10 PM
2120
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Age: 31
Posts: 1,571
Rep Power: 12 2120 has a reputation beyond repute2120 has a reputation beyond repute2120 has a reputation beyond repute2120 has a reputation beyond repute2120 has a reputation beyond repute2120 has a reputation beyond repute2120 has a reputation beyond repute2120 has a reputation beyond repute2120 has a reputation beyond repute2120 has a reputation beyond repute2120 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 21,277,046,319.27
Bank: 101,789,744.86
Total Points: 21,378,836,064.13
Be Joyful - Gift Giver Have some green :) - dancovboxer 
Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Gift Giver Childhood Cancer - S K I N 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldie View Post
Martinez is already on record saying that he would come down to fight Mayweather, so common sense should have told you that the fight not being made is because Mayweather has chosen not to make it. You and others can call it a "duck" or whatever else makes you feel better. It's not a natural matchup because Martinez is the much bigger guy. He's a middleweight that would have to somewhat drain himself to get to 54 while Mayweather is a WW that would have to bloat himself to make 54.

Mayweather's abilities are tested in every fight. I know that he makes it look easy and that hurts the soul of haters, but it's not as easy as he makes it look.
your argument that Martinez is to big for floyd is weak. it is the only match up worth floyds time.

stop it already. everybody know Martinez is not a big middleweight. he can make 154 lbs.

clearly its not the size that worries you Martinez would be no bigger than ortiz and what canela rehydrate to on fight night.

just admit it you are afraid to see floyd lose

I on the other hand as much as i want to see floyd lose would not be on suicide watch like pacfans after Marquez destroyed their hero if floyd won Martinez

i just want to see floyd aka 154 champ in a tough fight but i guess meeting the former 154 champ and current undersized middle weight king Sergio Martinez would be asking to much of the great floyd "dont call me jr" mayweather
Reply With Quote
2120 is offline
Advertisements
>>>TO REMOVE THESE ADS, PLEASE REGISTER HERE FOR FREE<<<
#22
Old 12-23-2012, 04:15 PM
joseph5620
undisputed
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Calabasas, Calif
Posts: 5,821
Rep Power: 20 joseph5620 has a reputation beyond reputejoseph5620 has a reputation beyond reputejoseph5620 has a reputation beyond reputejoseph5620 has a reputation beyond reputejoseph5620 has a reputation beyond reputejoseph5620 has a reputation beyond reputejoseph5620 has a reputation beyond reputejoseph5620 has a reputation beyond reputejoseph5620 has a reputation beyond reputejoseph5620 has a reputation beyond reputejoseph5620 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 12,043,005,117,258.71
Bank: 1,333,287,208,496.53
Total Points: 13,376,292,325,755.24
a knowledgeable poster - Carnivore Great Poster! - Barnburner I would say you have the IQ of a rodent. But that would be an insult to the rodent.. - Unknown Champ quality posts - Stokely 
Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - JAB5239 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2120 View Post
your argument that Martinez is to big for floyd is weak. it is the only match up worth floyds time.

stop it already. everybody know Martinez is not a big middleweight. he can make 154 lbs.

clearly its not the size that worries you Martinez would be no bigger than ortiz and what canela rehydrate to on fight night.

just admit it you are afraid to see floyd lose

I on the other hand as much as i want to see floyd lose would not be on suicide watch like pacfans after Marquez destroyed their hero if floyd won Martinez

i just want to see floyd aka 154 champ in a tough fight but i guess meeting the former 154 champ and current undersized middle weight king Sergio Martinez would be asking to much of the great floyd "dont call me jr" mayweather
Martinez is not an "undersized" middleweight. He walks around at 180 pounds and has not fought at 154 in years. If he could make the weight easily he would still be in that division.
Reply With Quote
joseph5620 is offline
#23
Old 12-23-2012, 04:19 PM
Berry Picker
I love to pick
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: In a field, waiting for ripening season
Posts: 18,780
Rep Power: 56 Berry Picker has a reputation beyond reputeBerry Picker has a reputation beyond reputeBerry Picker has a reputation beyond reputeBerry Picker has a reputation beyond reputeBerry Picker has a reputation beyond reputeBerry Picker has a reputation beyond reputeBerry Picker has a reputation beyond reputeBerry Picker has a reputation beyond reputeBerry Picker has a reputation beyond reputeBerry Picker has a reputation beyond reputeBerry Picker has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 12,050,694,475.70
Bank: 1,422,683,044,212.17
Total Points: 1,434,733,738,687.88
your a good poster. - RJJ The Truth Thanks for your time amigo - anonymousboxing Top Notch Poster - Perro salud homie - Makavelli I know, I would of shit all over Cotto if it was him. - Ch@mpBox@PR 
No KO but still a nice win for your man Pwill! - BattlingNelson For speakin the truth homey - mangler the ownage on your thread deserves a drink - Makavelli Top poster. Cheers big dawg - mangler Here's to real talk - MANGLER 
Viva los Fish Tacos - Libido Sanchez flomo killa deserves a beer - -pound4pound- pinoys and mexicans dont just drink 1 beer, have another - -pound4pound- smart mofo, a gift homie, that is all - Tha_Greatest You hold the record for quickest ban, congrats!!! - WarFace 
great poster, keep owning the racists that lurk this forum - Band-Aid have a blue parallelogram - Jack Napier still dropping pwns daily - -MAKAVELLI- keep exposing the catchweight king FM - hectari stay gold - sugarsmosley 
Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - JM1 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldSugar
Wow, we are in a sad state right now.
blown up welterweight? don't you mean two time 154 lb division champ? "size doesn't win fights, skills do".


Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android
Reply With Quote
Berry Picker is offline
#24
Old 12-23-2012, 04:25 PM
GoldSugar
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 516
Rep Power: 0 GoldSugar is infamous around these partsGoldSugar is infamous around these partsGoldSugar is infamous around these partsGoldSugar is infamous around these partsGoldSugar is infamous around these partsGoldSugar is infamous around these partsGoldSugar is infamous around these partsGoldSugar is infamous around these partsGoldSugar is infamous around these partsGoldSugar is infamous around these partsGoldSugar is infamous around these parts
Points: 25,174.57
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 25,174.57
Default

Why doesn't Martinez take a fight at 154 first to see how it feels getting back in the division?
Reply With Quote
GoldSugar is offline
#25
Old 12-23-2012, 04:27 PM
GoldSugar
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 516
Rep Power: 0 GoldSugar is infamous around these partsGoldSugar is infamous around these partsGoldSugar is infamous around these partsGoldSugar is infamous around these partsGoldSugar is infamous around these partsGoldSugar is infamous around these partsGoldSugar is infamous around these partsGoldSugar is infamous around these partsGoldSugar is infamous around these partsGoldSugar is infamous around these partsGoldSugar is infamous around these parts
Points: 25,174.57
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 25,174.57
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gallo Negro! View Post
blown up welterweight? don't you mean two time 154 lb division champ? "size doesn't win fights, skills do".


Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android
So whatever Floyd says goes right?
Reply With Quote
GoldSugar is offline
#26
Old 12-23-2012, 04:30 PM
Bushbaby
Wild Apache
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Tacoma by way of St Croix.
Posts: 22,408
Blog Entries: 1
Rep Power: 56 Bushbaby has disabled reputation
Points: 1,955,321,558,327.90
Bank: 20,383,500,665,784.93
Total Points: 22,338,822,224,112.83
A fellow Williams fan! - Monkz cheers - LarryX2011 one of the best posters - MANIAC310 great fukkin poster - chiguy91 Happy new years - MANIAC310 
For a standup guy! - CubanGuyNYC Bradley's taking this thing down - mathed Happy Christmas amigo - chav Great poster. - CounterPunching Great Tribute to Miguel Cotto!  Thank you for taking the time! - Da Boxer 
Breast Cancer - Birth Parents - F-22 Raptor Cultural Diversity - Hunger - Leukemia - Lupus - Melanoma - Racial Tolerance - Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy Syndrome - Self Injury - mathed Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - LoadedWraps 
Default

There are some weird Floyd fans & Pacman fans alive. I personally love when the fighters I support go after the greatest challenges.
Reply With Quote
Bushbaby is offline
#27
Old 12-23-2012, 04:31 PM
RapidFire26
Contender
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 410
Rep Power: 3 RapidFire26 is on a distinguished road
Points: 27,180.70
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 27,180.70
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joseph5620 View Post
Martinez is not an "undersized" middleweight. He walks around at 180 pounds and has not fought at 154 in years. If he could make the weight easily he would still be in that division.
Not necessarily. He left the division for bigger fights and probably would not go back down unless there is a big fight to be had. Right now that means only Canelo or Floyd.

I'm not saying it would would be easy for Martinez, but I think it is doable especially if you give him the time he has asked for to lose the weight in a relatively healthy manner. I do think Martinez walks around 175-178, but he typically weighs around 165-167 on fight night. I think he weighed slightly less when at JMW on fight night.

He weighed 157 at the weight-in against Macklin and did not look like a stick like say a fighter like Chavez does, so I think he could lose some extra weight. It may have to be some muscle mass, but it is doable. Obviously, he is a lot older than Chavez, but that is where the time comes in. If he has time he may be able to pull it off relatively well.
Reply With Quote
RapidFire26 is offline
#28
Old 12-23-2012, 05:04 PM
GoldSugar
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 516
Rep Power: 0 GoldSugar is infamous around these partsGoldSugar is infamous around these partsGoldSugar is infamous around these partsGoldSugar is infamous around these partsGoldSugar is infamous around these partsGoldSugar is infamous around these partsGoldSugar is infamous around these partsGoldSugar is infamous around these partsGoldSugar is infamous around these partsGoldSugar is infamous around these partsGoldSugar is infamous around these parts
Points: 25,174.57
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 25,174.57
Default

I agree with that. Martinez should actually move down and try a fight before looking for the Floyd fight.
Reply With Quote
GoldSugar is offline
#29
Old 12-23-2012, 05:39 PM
r__mutt
Contender
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 369
Rep Power: 0 r__mutt is infamous around these partsr__mutt is infamous around these partsr__mutt is infamous around these partsr__mutt is infamous around these partsr__mutt is infamous around these partsr__mutt is infamous around these partsr__mutt is infamous around these partsr__mutt is infamous around these partsr__mutt is infamous around these partsr__mutt is infamous around these partsr__mutt is infamous around these parts
Points: 6,723.72
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 6,723.72
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldSugar View Post
The Best Fight in Boxing is a Blown Up Welterweight vs a 38yr Old MW?
I think its precisely those caveats that make the fight interesting. Are they both over the hill? Is Mayweather slower or somehow otherwise deficient at his highest weight class? Would Martinez be drained at a weight class he hasn't fought at in years?

There just seems to be more question marks than FMJ vs Ghost, or FMJ vs Alvarez (who I think gets schooled ala Martinez vs JCC Jr), or, speaking of which, Martinez vs JCC Jr II.

That's not to say there aren't other great fights to be made, or ones that don't involve FMJ or Maravilla aren't great, but as far as the, let's say generally-accepted top P4P list goes, its one of the best fights to be made.
Reply With Quote
r__mutt is offline
#30
Old 12-23-2012, 05:58 PM
Goldie
Al Sharpton's bodyguard
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 536
Rep Power: 0 Goldie is infamous around these partsGoldie is infamous around these partsGoldie is infamous around these partsGoldie is infamous around these partsGoldie is infamous around these partsGoldie is infamous around these partsGoldie is infamous around these partsGoldie is infamous around these partsGoldie is infamous around these partsGoldie is infamous around these partsGoldie is infamous around these parts
Points: 16,414.04
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 16,414.04
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2120 View Post
your argument that Martinez is to big for floyd is weak. it is the only match up worth floyds time.

stop it already. everybody know Martinez is not a big middleweight. he can make 154 lbs.

clearly its not the size that worries you Martinez would be no bigger than ortiz and what canela rehydrate to on fight night.

just admit it you are afraid to see floyd lose

I on the other hand as much as i want to see floyd lose would not be on suicide watch like pacfans after Marquez destroyed their hero if floyd won Martinez

i just want to see floyd aka 154 champ in a tough fight but i guess meeting the former 154 champ and current undersized middle weight king Sergio Martinez would be asking to much of the great floyd "dont call me jr" mayweather
Here's the difference between you and I. You want to see Mayweather lose, I'm satisfied seeing him fight win, lose, or draw. You're a hater, I'm a fan. It would not bother me one bit to see Mayweather lose, and I would not mind seeing May-Martinez. I simply understand why Mayweather might not want to make the fight and don't feel the need to criticize or hate on him for not doing so. You hate because you're a hater, you're not concerned with being rational. You're the type that's mad at Mayweather for being as good as he is. Talk about being sad and pathetic.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushbaby View Post
There are some weird Floyd fans & Pacman fans alive. I personally love when the fighters I support go after the greatest challenges.
No true Mayweather or boxing fan would be upset at him taking on the Martinez-54 challenge, we just understand why he wouldn't decide to do that at this point. There's a clear difference in wanting to see Mayweather take the fight and hating on him because he hasn't done so.
Reply With Quote
Goldie is offline
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
38yr, blown, boxing, fight, welterweight

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Privacy Policy - Submit News - Feedback - Site Map - Advertise with Us

Copyright 2003-2013 BoxingScene LLC All rights reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:52 PM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.