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Old 12-21-2012, 02:01 PM
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Old 12-21-2012, 02:02 PM
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Calzaghe threw 700+ punches to B-Hop's 468, Calzaghe also landed at a higher rate. JC even had time to simulate buggery on the executioner amongst the festivities, so no, I personally don't think he was particularly slowed down.

Regarding Ward, much depends on the reffing. Forced to fight on the outside, I think Calzaghe is the superior pure boxer. If Ward has license to maul on the inside, then he probably takes it over 12.

I don't tend to take no notice of compubox though I have to doubt it was that high and he certainly didn't have a good connect percentage. From what I recall Joe did throw more nut noway near as many as he usually did & B-Hop landed the harder more accurate shots.

I've always had to give Joe that though his conditioning and workrate was exceptional.
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Old 12-21-2012, 02:06 PM
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Calzaghe jumped up to 175 vs hopkins. Plus it was a messy fight.

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B-Hop had only had 1 fight at 175 I think. If anything I think 168 may well of favoured B-Hop more!
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Old 12-21-2012, 02:16 PM
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Before he even turned pro I knew Calzaghe was going to be special. Everyone involved in the UK scene did at the time (well, we thought we might).

But I think he let himself down with his long stretches of mediocre opponents. It's probably not all his fault but I still feel that his career wasn't what it should have been.

As for the people calling him 'slappy', I guarantee none of you would last a round with him, even today.
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Old 12-21-2012, 02:18 PM
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Old 12-21-2012, 02:19 PM
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calzaghe was a great fighter imo. i know alot of people dont like him, but he was damn good

with that said. a bhop who was not in his mid 40s would make joe look real real bad...pretty handily too.

i dono that anyone can seriously say a prime joe can beat a prime bhop or a prime roy, i think they are just taking with hate, not logic, which we are all used to here
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B-Hop had only had 1 fight at 175 I think. If anything I think 168 may well of favoured B-Hop more!
True but Bernard was still better acustomed to 175 by that age IMO. Calzaghe looked terrible but I also feel weight may have affected him a little. He looked particularly sluggish. Hopkin's performed good and Calzaghe looked pretty sloppy.
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Old 12-21-2012, 02:28 PM
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Old 12-21-2012, 02:30 PM
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True but Bernard was still better acustomed to 175 by that age IMO. Calzaghe looked terrible but I also feel weight may have affected him a little. He looked particularly sluggish. Hopkin's performed good and Calzaghe looked pretty sloppy.

Calzaghe is quite a big guy, bigger than B-Hop is naturally, I don't feel the weight was a problem.
I think Hopkins made him look sloppy with his feints, movement & defense.

I feel his feints messed Joe up and he couldn't get off as he'd of liked to of and was throwing in desperation for most part.
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Old 12-21-2012, 02:34 PM
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Ward boxes his ears off.

Shot Roy Jones who had lost all of his power floored him also, prime Roy utterly crushes him.
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