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Old 12-19-2012, 02:56 PM
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I don't know how you instantly become #1 after beating the #1 guy, when you weren't even in the top 10. I guess it's his past that got him at #1, his status as the best P4P fighter. He's at least top 3.

If we're being real though, like forget about rankings and numbers, Floyd is probably the best at WW-JMW regardless of rankings. Like the best as in he could beat any one in those two weight classes. I would say Trout is #2, Canelo #3, Cotto #4, Lara/Molina tied at #5. So Ring is not way off base with there rankings.
that's the opposite of being real. that's called fantasy. floyd won't prove it in the ring so how do you know he's the best? looks like someone has a case of the probably's.
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:57 PM
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:58 PM
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Old 12-19-2012, 03:14 PM
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Mayweather beat Cotto at 154, now people see him as the best there. I see the Mayweather-Cotto fight as a battle of WW's with a bit more muscle, neither should be campaigning with the JR Middleweights. Cotto was wrongly ranked no.1.

Canelo and Trout are natural 154lb'ers. If Mayweather beat one of these, I could see the argument. But he hasn't, so why is he considered better than boxers naturally at this weight, naturally much bigger?

I can see why Mayweather fans would feel offended by this. But Mayweather doesn't have to be unbeatable at any weight he fights in, to be at the level he is at. In fact, for all we know he is probably very vulnerable at 154 against Cotto/Trout. All it means is that 154 is too big for him.

I can see Trout beating Mayweather by UD. Canelo, i'm not too sure.
probably because floyd is looked at as the best fighter in general
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Old 12-19-2012, 03:23 PM
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To be real about it Trout is probably #1, followed by Mayweather, then Canelo. Mayweather gets the benefit of the doubt because he is Mayweather. Cotto shouldn't have been ranked #1 essentially just for Yuri Foreman.
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Old 12-19-2012, 03:25 PM
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that's the opposite of being real. that's called fantasy. floyd won't prove it in the ring so how do you know he's the best? looks like someone has a case of the probably's.


i thought you knew by now daggum, floyd is the greatest fantasy fighter of all time. of course pac is the worst.


Its the woulda, coulda, shoulda crew. Floyd doesnt need to fight anyone. He lets everybody beat each other (like he did during his first fake retirement when he didnt want to face a loaded welter division after the hatton ko) and when the smoke clears he goes "see that guy lost to that guy, no reason for me to fight him in the first place."

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Old 12-19-2012, 03:46 PM
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Floyds beaten 2 champions at 154, granted one was a while ago, but it is what it is. He's also regarded as the P4P #1 best. Oscar and Cotto and better than anyone else at the 154 level. It's all a bunch of unproven fighters with **** resumes. Show me a fighter who deserves to be #1, and remember no fantasy. Just because you feel x beats mayweather doesn't count.
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Old 12-19-2012, 03:52 PM
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Floyds beaten 2 champions at 154, granted one was a while ago, but it is what it is. He's also regarded as the P4P #1 best. Oscar and Cotto and better than anyone else at the 154 level. It's all a bunch of unproven fighters with **** resumes. Show me a fighter who deserves to be #1, and remember no fantasy. Just because you feel x beats mayweather doesn't count.
We know that Trout at least is better than Cotto at 154.
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Old 12-19-2012, 03:56 PM
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i maybe put Trout over May at 154...
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:03 PM
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We know that Trout at least is better than Cotto at 154.
Which is fair to say because he obviously is. It's hard to put a guy above mayweather though because of what Floyd has done, and his status in boxing as P4P. Two time 154 lb champ, and P4P #1 fighter is going to get the spot over Trout. If they ever fight (which they won't) you can decide otherwise. As it is now I think the ranking is fair.
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