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Old 12-17-2012, 01:53 PM
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24/7/365 testing is no match for Undetectable PED's
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Old 12-17-2012, 02:03 PM
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24/7/365 testing is no match for Undetectable PED's
Tell that to Berto and Peterson.
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Old 12-17-2012, 02:13 PM
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Wrong. The major difference is that Nonito is the ONLY boxer undergoing VADA 24/7/365. He's the only boxer that can honestly claim to be clean, Period, End of story.
Isn't Conte associated with the VADA is some capacity?

Regardless, I don't think Donaire is on anything illegal.

Same for Marquez and Rigondeaux if he chooses to work with Heredia.

If Marquez was taking flush shots from Froch and then knocking him out, I'd be suspicious, but fighting Pac at WW and KOing him as he DIVES into your fist is nothing to sound alarm bells at.

And Rigo, one look at his physique and you can tell that steroids would be pointless.
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Old 12-17-2012, 07:28 PM
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Wrong. The major difference is that Nonito is the ONLY boxer undergoing VADA 24/7/365. He's the only boxer that can honestly claim to be clean, Period, End of story.
Does VADA testing check for undetectable PEDs? The kind which Victor Conte and Memo Heredia are supposedly experts in?

And I've said it before but I'll say it again. Having Conte be associated with VADA...and then having one of the fighters he works with test with VADA....well, that seems like a big conflict of interest.
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Old 12-17-2012, 07:31 PM
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Does VADA testing check for undetectable PEDs? The kind which Victor Conte and Memo Heredia are supposedly experts in?

And I've said it before but I'll say it again. Having Conte be associated with VADA...and then having one of the fighters he works with test with VADA....well, that seems like a big conflict of interest.
He works/ed with Berto as well.... How did that work out???
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Old 12-17-2012, 07:33 PM
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Boxing needs to get rid of all these scumbags or just legalize peds.
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:01 PM
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MEMO works for USADA you know that right.

He said so himself that he helps USADA, he also is an snitch who is protected because he gave valuable info to Jeff Nowitzky or whoever that guy is. And Golden boy has a relationship with USADA.


VADA is more respectable because it was started and headed by Dr. Margaret Goodman a legit and honorable ringside doctor who created a lot of enemies in Nevada for her questioning their drug testing and the way they went about the health of the fighters, she sought out Conte's help, what better person to understand how to catch cheats than a reform cheater who cleaned up his act.

I believe Victor, I dont believe Memo that guy is a snitch and changed his name and two years after he was given leniency he was doing what he did best cheat, making undetectable drugs in mexico and bragging.
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:05 PM
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Memo acting like he's a trainer by wanting to beat one of Conte's fighters...Marquez really blew his head up
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Yeah, this is a bad move by Rigo, why put a black cloud over himself? Look what happened with Marquez so many people are saying he is on roids after he KO Pacman because of his link to Memo.
Maybe so, but if he did do it, technically he got away with it. So Marquez benefited.
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