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#21
Old 12-15-2012, 12:04 PM
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Of course not.

A win over either of these trumps his entire career.
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Old 12-15-2012, 12:04 PM
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canelo certainly is a phenom in his own right, i mean no ones that good at just 22 years of age but he needs to at least defeat trout or another top 154 pounder before he even thinks of fighting mayweather. throw him in with legit opposition and we'll see if he's really that good. everybody wants the mayweather fight, who would want a big pay check win or lose.
I can tell you are a young buck! Please look up Wilfredo Benitez! You can learn a thing or two and thank me later!
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Old 12-15-2012, 12:07 PM
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Ward is so much better than Chavez Jr no promoter would even make that fight. Chavez had one great round and 11 terrible rounds against a lighter punching Sergio. Ward would overwhelm Jr.
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Old 12-15-2012, 12:10 PM
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I can tell you are a young buck! Please look up Wilfredo Benitez! You can learn a thing or two and thank me later!
benitez is an ATG, he had monster aggression but the most notable of his accolades was he won the WBA belt at just 17. canelo is no where near that level but in today's standards, a young fighter is lucky to even be part of pvp card, not to mention be the main event
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Old 12-15-2012, 12:12 PM
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if he does that i'd actually LOVE the mayweather fight
as it stands, i would udnerstand floyd fighting him, but sht, what if canelo turns out to be sht or floyd ruins him? does nothin for his legacy, another victor ortiz
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Old 12-15-2012, 12:14 PM
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I understand he had those dates with better fighters but the fact remains that he didn't fight either so we don't know how he would've done! Then when he has the chance to fight legit opposition, he fights Joseito? Common man!
Joseito was not his first choice. Who else was available at that time? He fought him because he beat Ortiz.
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Old 12-15-2012, 12:15 PM
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Joseito was not his first choice. Who else was available at that time? He fought him because he beat Ortiz.
not a single 154 lb'er was available?
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Old 12-15-2012, 12:17 PM
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he's not overrated now, he's just unproven
he'll end up fighting Floyd, surprised if that doesn't happen
but he gets legitimacy beating Trout or Martinez
he'd lose to Martinez anyway, but he can take Trout
Trout's win over Cotto wasn't all that impressive
This sums it up.
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Old 12-15-2012, 12:18 PM
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I can tell you are a young buck! Please look up Wilfredo Benitez! You can learn a thing or two and thank me later!
You are comparing fighters from different eras and the sport has evolved so much since then.

Benitez probably would've not won a world championship at the age of 17 in this era. Look at the guys right now who are 17-18 years old and there is no way they can compete with a real world championship.

Look at Morales who won his belt at age 21.
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Old 12-15-2012, 12:20 PM
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not a single 154 lb'er was available?
Tell me who were the top 154 lbs fighters available at time?
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