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Old 12-19-2012, 09:28 PM
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1917 was the Russian Revolution, then there was a civil war, then they took power (pointless but i do do history at uni, i hardly ever get to use that ****).
I didn't dispute any of this.

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Id bet my house that by 2017 you havent executed any aristocrats. Unless its for criminal reasons.
Maybe and maybe not, but who needs to execute them when you can just squeeze them out of society using government power?

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If you dont have a private sector then does the government control Apple? Wallmart? Disney? Coka cola?
The do through regulation, and in some cases outright partnerships. Nothing gets done or built here w/out government approval.

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No doubt not everyone is born equal in intelligence, however everyone should be given equality of opportunity so those who are more intelligent can show it. Rather the system you (and we) have at the moment where if you are born rich you stay rich.
No they shouldn't because that requires violent force. Such as we have here. Forcing people to give money and/or free stuff or opportunities they haven't earned to fulfill some "feel good" notion of equality.

Egalitarianism is a mental illness.
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:40 PM
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I didn't dispute any of this.



Maybe and maybe not, but who needs to execute them when you can just squeeze them out of society using government power?



The do through regulation, and in some cases outright partnerships. Nothing gets done or built here w/out government approval.



No they shouldn't because that requires violent force. Such as we have here. Forcing people to give money and/or free stuff or opportunities they haven't earned to fulfill some "feel good" notion of equality.

Egalitarianism is a mental illness.
You talk about not earning opportunities but that is exactly what rich people do everyday! They get into the best schools, into the best colleges, and then into the best jobs all because their mummy and daddy are able to foot the bill, all the while a poor person who may have equal intelligence gets left behind.

IMO all societies should aspire to equality in opportunity as much as is possible.

Ima stop posting now cos we're going in circles and have well an truly hijacked the thread. Have fun across the pond with your guns an sh1t.
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Old 12-20-2012, 02:43 PM
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Gun "control" myths about England thoroughly debunked and put into context by Thomas Sowell.

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Piers Morgan the redcoat bragging about how he's actively trying to destroy America on his twitter feed.

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If only the first victim, his mother, was a gun owner... this entire disaster would of been diverted.
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Better than the argument that somehow a father of a dead 6 year old daughter was somehow acting.
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Lol, I will always have a gun no matter what the law is, but I can assure you the NRA is to strong and influential to ever let guns get taken away.

I wish these crazy fuckers would quit giving gun owners a bad name. It's disgusting. Keep guns out of cities maybe? IDK, but I do know you goofy city folk are fucking with my rights by being fucking stupid.
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Better than the argument that somehow a father of a dead 6 year old daughter was somehow acting.
Apples and oranges
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