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Old 12-24-2012, 07:32 AM
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My my my... Aren't we sensitive... you guys should lighten-up... We're not talkin' politics or religion here...
Ignorance and idiocy annoys me, that's all.
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Old 12-24-2012, 09:06 AM
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My my my... Aren't we sensitive... you guys should lighten-up... We're not talkin' politics or religion here...

Doesn't look like anyone is overrreacting in any way. You posted something and it's being questioned...I'm sure if someone's top 20 didn't have Duran in it you'd want to know why (as would I).
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Old 12-24-2012, 09:10 AM
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List was respectable enough until Whitaker, Charles and Lopez crashed the party.
Whitaker and Charles are perfectly fine. Lopez not so much.
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Old 12-24-2012, 09:20 PM
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Doesn't look like anyone is overrreacting in any way. You posted something and it's being questioned...I'm sure if someone's top 20 didn't have Duran in it you'd want to know why (as would I).
I Have never questioned anyone's omission of Duran, nor would I. I have no sacred cows. I figure everyone's entitled to their biases, preferences and subjectivity, as am I.
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Old 12-28-2012, 06:27 AM
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I think you can make an argument for Whitaker as a top 10 p4p. I don't have him that high, but I wouldn't think twice if someone did.
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Old 12-28-2012, 04:51 PM
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I think you can make an argument for Whitaker as a top 10 p4p. I don't have him that high, but I wouldn't think twice if someone did.
In his prime Whitaker was an absolutely brilliant fighter. Even in his post prime he still always made a respectable showing. I also wouldn't question a very high rating for him.
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Old 12-28-2012, 05:46 PM
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In his prime Whitaker was an absolutely brilliant fighter. Even in his post prime he still always made a respectable showing. I also wouldn't question a very high rating for him.
If we're talking skills, h2h ability and resume then I'd agree.

If we're talking solely resume then I can't see how he's a Top 10 ATG.
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Old 12-28-2012, 05:49 PM
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Old 12-28-2012, 06:45 PM
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If we're talking skills, h2h ability and resume then I'd agree.

If we're talking solely resume then I can't see how he's a Top 10 ATG.
I'm going strictly on what I saw visually, with the knowledge that he fought the top fighters of his era. So then it would be the first option.
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Old 12-28-2012, 07:54 PM
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I definitely take h2h and skills into account in my ratings.
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I'm going strictly on what I saw visually, with the knowledge that he fought the top fighters of his era. So then it would be the first option.


That's exactly the way I look at it when rating fighters in terms of where they stand historically.
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