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Old 12-12-2012, 08:57 PM
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chavez
marquez
olivares
sanchez
morales
barrera
lopez

lopez was a very good fighter. a great fighter. he was at a much smaller weight class than the others, though, where great fighters don't often fight and stick around for entire careers. frankly, at those weights, the fighters are not that good. once guys hit 118 lbs or so you start to see real athletic specimens regularly at the top.

there have been great athletes and fighters at 105/108, but they're few and far between. lopez could easily be higher on some people's lists than morales and barrera, depending on whether or not they discount his accomplishments based on the perennial weakness of his division

sanchez is also an odd case. he's got some big wins, but he died at 23, giving him an aura of invincibility. we have never seen him on the downside, the way we saw everybody else. his win over gomez is one of the biggest wins ever for a mexican fighter.

i'd really like to see marquez career end first. he just knocked out manny pacquiao. it's hard to rate that win at this stage. it just happened.

if manny takes a tune up fight and loses it will reduce the weight of marquez win. and if marquez goes on to get destroyed we'll know that it didn't take a great fighter to stop manny at the tail end of his career.
X2, same for me. Quite a collection of fighters!
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Old 12-13-2012, 01:19 AM
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Chavez
Morales
Barrera
Olivares
Marquez
Lopez
Sanchez
Chavez
Sanchez
Marquez
Lopez
Morales
Olivares
Barrera
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Old 12-13-2012, 01:31 AM
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Oh man, I'm struggling with this one.

Chavez has to be first. No two ways about it. Marquez has now trumped Morales and Barrera for me. He literally has what I'd call the greatest Mexican win in boxing history, along with Sanchez/Gomez. I rate it just above that though. But, I cannot for the life of me decide about Sanchez and Olivares.

Hmmm, need to think more. Gonna have to come back though. Off to gig.

At the moment, I'll say:
Chavez
Olivares
Marquez
Morales
Barrera
Sanchez
Lopez

Man, maybe Morales and Barrera above Sanchez. I think Sanchez would probably beat them both, maybe, but I think those two have deeper resumes and of course had long, greater careers. Ok! I'm changing it! Sanchez below those guys. Doesn't seem right with Sanchez down there. Wow....
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Old 12-13-2012, 01:59 AM
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What a reversal, everyone rating Morales over Barrera now
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:34 AM
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What a reversal, everyone rating Morales over Barrera now
I always have.
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:42 AM
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Barrera
Chavez
Lopez
Marquez
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Olivares
Sanchez











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Old 12-13-2012, 07:53 AM
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Lopez
Marquez
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Might be the easiest way.
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Old 12-15-2012, 03:02 PM
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Old 12-15-2012, 03:06 PM
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I'd put Arizmendi in there over Lopez too. Two wins over Armstrong, beat Chalky Wright and LaBarba. Not as consistent but the gap between who beat who is a canyon.
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Old 12-15-2012, 03:08 PM
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I'd put Arizmendi in there over Lopez too. Two wins over Armstrong, beat Chalky Wright and LaBarba. Not as consistent but the gap between who beat who is a canyon.
I'd agree with you on that.

Lopez was very skilled (Although I think his skills are overrated) but in terms of greatness, he's very overrated.
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