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Old 12-12-2012, 01:32 PM
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A lot of is coincidence but I would not be surprised if an alien race visited this planet a few thousand years ago and shared technology and information with us. I don't believe they knew anything we don't (unless alien intervention happened) and they're certainly not inferior to the people of today. It's only a few thousand years that separates us...


That for me, is the most likely explanation for having a ' God '.
Nonsense, there are no aliens, at least none that have visited us. There is no evidence of that and we are now understanding how the ancients built these great structures. With lot's of hard work and many resources.

The explanation of god is simple, it's man not being able to understand the natural world so they invent things to explain it, nothing more.

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This is exactly right. As individuals they were just as resourceful and intelligent as we are today, they're just working in a framework with less technology. Each technological advance, each metallurgical advance even, paved the way for further technological advances. It's not just in the last 150 years. Isaac Newton said:

"If I have seen further it is by standing on ye sholders of Giants"

It's not just technology either. Political stability is another indicator, the political stability to be able to travel freely and communicate freely, to share ideas.

That's why technology and scientific knowledge is improving at the rate it is. We can communicate freely to a degree never seen before. The sharing of ideas is probably more important than the actual technological base to build upon.
Very well said and much ancient technology has been lost. Not necessarily better than what we have today, just more resourceful with what they had.

The point you brought up about political stability is a great one. It's the very reason America is the greatest country in the world when it comes to almost all technology, military and economic success. It's not that Americans were that intelligent, it was the system that allowed them to succeed and brought competition and a willingness to achieve something even if it was for only monetary gain.
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Old 12-12-2012, 01:49 PM
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Very well said and much ancient technology has been lost. Not necessarily better than what we have today, just more resourceful with what they had.
And this again I agree with. There are some techniques such as the exact pyramid construction method, that we don't know. That doesn't mean that given the will and the fiscal means we couldn't make pyramids of our own. We could, and we could make them bigger and more precise. It just means we don't know how they did it.

Of course if we were to make pyramids today we'd probably use concrete, steel and glass. It's cheaper, it's faster and it's much much easier to repair.

The Luxor hotel is 111m high. The Pyramid of Khufu at Giza is 146m high. One of those builds represents the pinnacle of engineering technology for the time. The other is a fancy hotel and casino.

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The point you brought up about political stability is a great one. It's the very reason America is the greatest country in the world when it comes to almost all technology, military and economic success.
I think you need to check outside your borders. The US technology indistry is begining to lag behind that of East Asia in particular that of Japan and South Korea. Its economy is failing as well and the economies of other nations are gaining on it, in particular China. This is due to the erosion of the manufacturing base in the country as the search for efficiencies led elsewhere. And the US has the most successful military because it puts more of its resources into military than any other nation in the developed world. it puts way more resources into its military than the British Empire did at the height of its reach and power.

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It's not that Americans were that intelligent, it was the system that allowed them to succeed and brought competition and a willingness to achieve something even if it was for only monetary gain.
The US had key advantages in population, resources and economics at a key time where the rest of the world was at war. That's why temporarily the US because the dominant superpower. It's now declining, which isn't necessarily a dire situation. It just means it will need to seek international allies such as in Europe and the Far East instead of being able to go it alone every time.
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Old 12-12-2012, 01:58 PM
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I'm not about to watch an hour of nonsense. You posted a brief summary which included this:

"Solving ancient mysteries Part 1. "The Ancients" knew much more than given credit for regarding Life, The Universe, Astronomy, Advanced Mathematics, Magnetism, Healing, Unseen Forces etc.
Encoded knowledge is information that is conveyed in signs and symbols and we can find this knowledge all over the world. All these ancient sightings and geometric patterns (Sacred Geometry) symbolise unseen forces at work
"

You also claimed that

"We are being lied to by the media. Modern archaeologists don't know what they're talking about. "

So experts who devote their time to studying and understanding the lives of people in the past are clueless. This youtube documentary will explain why? And the "modern media" is in on this?

Can you now see why this sounds absurd? By the way nobody ever claimed that "the ancients" were stupid. They were not. They were as intelligent and resourceful as people are today. But knowledge, especially since the invention of writing, is progressive as is technology, which is why we do collectively know more today than "the ancients" did in the past.
Unseen forces = magic?

What about electricity, magnetism, gravity ect.
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Old 12-12-2012, 01:59 PM
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And this again I agree with. There are some techniques such as the exact pyramid construction method, that we don't know. That doesn't mean that given the will and the fiscal means we couldn't make pyramids of our own. We could, and we could make them bigger and more precise. It just means we don't know how they did it.

Of course if we were to make pyramids today we'd probably use concrete, steel and glass. It's cheaper, it's faster and it's much much easier to repair.

The Luxor hotel is 111m high. The Pyramid of Khufu at Giza is 146m high. One of those builds represents the pinnacle of engineering technology for the time. The other is a fancy hotel and casino.



I think you need to check outside your borders. The US technology indistry is begining to lag behind that of East Asia in particular that of Japan and South Korea. Its economy is failing as well and the economies of other nations are gaining on it, in particular China. This is due to the erosion of the manufacturing base in the country as the search for efficiencies led elsewhere. And the US has the most successful military because it puts more of its resources into military than any other nation in the developed world. it puts way more resources into its military than the British Empire did at the height of its reach and power.



The US had key advantages in population, resources and economics at a key time where the rest of the world was at war. That's why temporarily the US because the dominant superpower. It's now declining, which isn't necessarily a dire situation. It just means it will need to seek international allies such as in Europe and the Far East instead of being able to go it alone every time.
I was speaking about America in the last 200 years or so, not necessarily today. Even though America still has great technology but you are right, the rest of the world is catching up , caught up and in some cases surpassed the U.S.
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Did squaelpiggy really just say we're more advanced because we would make pyramids out of glass, concrete and steel.
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Did squaelpiggy really just say we're more advanced because we would make pyramids out of glass, concrete and steel.
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I was speaking about America in the last 200 years or so
America lagged behind Britain for half of that time. I mean 200 years ago was 1812. In 1812 you were busy getting your asses kicked by Canadians while Britain was just setting into motion the kicking of Napoleon's Corsican ass.

The US didn't catch up to Britain in terms of technology until around 1900.
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I finished watching all 5 parts. It's really well put together and although there are a few text and voice clips of illuminati conspiracies it didn't make it seem any less credible.

This is one of the best parts (part 2):
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I finished watching all 5 parts. It's really well put together and although there are a few text and voice clips of illuminati conspiracies it didn't make it seem any less credible.

This is one of the best parts (part 2):
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Originally Posted by Cuauhtémoc1520 View Post
Nonsense, there are no aliens, at least none that have visited us. There is no evidence of that and we are now understanding how the ancients built these great structures. With lot's of hard work and many resources.

The explanation of god is simple, it's man not being able to understand the natural world so they invent things to explain it, nothing more.
I think it's incredibly ignorant to write off life outside of this planet like that. I'm adamant that there is life forms out there and there are pictures in caves which depict men wearing astronaut helmets and also the Annunaki, which have been there for thousands of years.

The explanation of God is not simple, you use an example that I often use. But another example is in WW2, some American soldiers ended up on a remote Japanese island where the habitants were very primitive. Upon seeing the American soldiers for the first time, they believed they were Gods because of their equipment/weaponry etc.

It's easy to see why religion may have been conceived in the first place as an answer for natural disasters and so on but the possibility of alien life forms being viewed as 'Gods' is also very likely.
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