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View Poll Results: Does Broner deserve to be #5 on the top ten P4P
Yes, at age 23 he's already a two-division champion 11 11.70%
No, beating DeMarco is not sufficient to merit a spot above Pacquiao and Donaire 70 74.47%
Maybe Ring Magazine liked his grillz in his interview with Kellerman. 13 13.83%
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:05 PM
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Who is Broner's promoter?

Who owns Ring Magazine?
up to this point, I hadn't really noticed a bias, not to say I was happy with the magazine content-wise but I thought it was fair to Arum + GBP, but now this
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:09 PM
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I totally agree with your p4p rankings, Pac is definitely above Floyd. - Neutral  to one of the greats - jas 
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I'm not going to place any faith in the Ring ratings any more. I've just deleted The Ring website from the favorites I look at every day.

Cliff Rold's boxingscene rankings are better.

Interestingly, there used to be about 30 people vote on the Ring rankings, now there's only Chuck Giampa and these 9 guys:

Mike Coppinger
Martin Mulcahey
Mark Ortega
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Why thank you Tunney (and for all those wondering when those will be updated, after the Donaire-Arce fight is the answer).
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:11 PM
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Why thank you Tunney (and for all those wondering when those will be updated, after the Donaire-Arce fight is the answer).

No comments on the ring list with broner at 5?
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:12 PM
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up to this point, I hadn't really noticed a bias, not to say I was happy with the magazine content-wise but I thought it was fair to Arum + GBP, but now this

This is boxing, and there is a ton of money involved. The bias was going to surface sooner or later.
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:15 PM
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I totally agree with your p4p rankings, Pac is definitely above Floyd. - Neutral  to one of the greats - jas 
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No comments on the ring list with broner at 5?
Commented earlier. Broner has the look of a top ten talent and if someone wanted him around 8-10, whatever. Top 5 got a "hahahahaha" out of me. It got people talking, which is all stupid ass P4P lists should ever do and this is exactly why people shouldn't take them so SERIOUS. I think though you can get them talking for the wrong reason. This might be a case...

...or it might be prescient. Like when Larry Merchant rated Pac top ten after ledwaba on the air, the world went nuts...and Merchant was right. He was just right on eye test instead of 'resume' which is what most people are looking at.

I wouldn't rate Broner over Donaire at all (or in the top ten yet), and I'd still have Pac, Froch, and Mares ahead of him. Ring has their take. Take it as you will.
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:16 PM
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:18 PM
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I totally agree with your p4p rankings, Pac is definitely above Floyd. - Neutral  to one of the greats - jas 
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For those who don't know, Ring's list is entirely composed by one guy: Chuck Giampa.

From the article on the new ratings: Due to the recent activity among elite fighters in the past few months, here is Giampa’s updated Pound-for-Pound Top 10 list (Editor’s Note: the mythical pound-for-pound rankings are not compiled with input from the Ratings Panel as the divisional ratings are):



They need to get the staff back involved.
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:24 PM
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I used to subscribed to Ring mag. Now, i just buy it once in a while. The Ghost did a great job on Berto but in no way that he should be in top 10.
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:42 PM
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Pacquiao is out of the top 10 because he got ktfo, no offense.
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Pacquiao is out of the top 10 because he got ktfo, no offense.

Agreed. I think he was in the bottom half (for whatever thats worth cuz pfp lists are dumb) before this fight. Floyd is around 5ish imo right now as well.
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