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Old 12-13-2012, 08:43 PM
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The fundamental issue here is what is the penultimate basis for the different beliefs in question.

My basis is my faith and the quantum of evidence surpasses the limits of human logic which is the very basis of faith.

On the other hand, atheism CAN'T EVEN PROVE ITSELF so what it does is bash the other side.

It's really simple.

Of course you won't accept it since you are bound by the limits of logic. If atheism can't prove itself how can it be true. Faith proves itself by ITSELF.
Babblebabblebabble. Quantum? You absolute moron.

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That is just a load of...

Even a basic college level logic class will see the error in this sentence. This is just beyond stu...

"I think you're a murderer. So you prove it that you're not a murderer so unless you do YOU ARE".

Are you on crack?

And atheism not a belief?

I'm amazed at the level of smartness. It's COMPLETELY MIND-BOGGLING.
This is the exact argument you are making:

There is a god, so prove that there isn't otherwise THERE IS!

Are you actually Lady Fan?
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:05 AM
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Were you looking in the mirror when you made such observations?

The burden of proof is on you, you're the one making the claim. I may claim that there is a teapot orbiting our planet, you can't disprove me but that doesn't mean I'm right.

The chances of a God existing is effectively zero and I have not seen any evidence to say otherwise. On the other hand, I can't prove that he doesn't exist meaning that if atheism (in one sense) is a belief then any conclusion I make that I'm not 100% sure on is a belief.
And I have proven it with a quantum of proof that is not linear to the limits of your beliefs. The problem here is that you are using a measuring stick which is insufficient for the the subject thus you arrive at wrongful conclusions.

In the end it's all about freewill.

It's really basic since nobody can prove atheism is true. Even science can't and only deluded individuals follow it.

Proof of God, there are thousands of NDE's. But we both know you won't accept it. Since your belief system is convoluted by a belief you can't even scientifically prove.

But it's your freewill.
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:18 AM
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Understand that lucifer was banished because HE DID NOT WANT TO SERVE MAN.

In the hierarchy of things next to God is actually Man. lucifer in his pride (remember that he is one of the smartest and most beautiful of angels and also one of the highest ranking), could not bring himself to serve Man which he considers inferior to himself.

God created Man out of His own image and it drove lucifer to rebellion. There were also a substantial number of angels who agreed with lucider's convoluted ideology and all of them was banished from Heaven and became twisted in form and in spirit. They are now the demons which plague mankind to sin.

TS is making this up like this is some kind of a joke.

lucifer hates mankind. All of mankind. He incited our first parents to sin thus we lost our rightful inheritance in paradise. He causes man to sin and that same sin has led to wars, murder, rape and overall human suffering.

Some of you clueless duds in your blind ignorant pride thinks he's nonexistent.

Remember this.

lucifer is smarter, far more brilliant that any of us. When he was banished from Heaven he was able to retain most of his knowledge. Our best weapon against his machinations is FAITH in GOD and CONSTANTLY BEING HUMBLE.
sounds like a nice book, you should write it
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:38 AM
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this thread is ****ing embarrassing, it's the 21st century and you have morons taking every single passage in the bible seriously.

The Bible is just an over hyped Harry Potter.
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:23 AM
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this thread is ****ing embarrassing, it's the 21st century and you have morons taking every single passage in the bible seriously.

The Bible is just an over hyped Harry Potter.
actually he doesn't quote from any scripture all that much...

he has his own sources from who knows where... like the presence of telepathy and telekinesis in heaven, ETs are actually fallen angels and the soul feeling 1000x more intensely than physical bodies...

theres plenty more other claims not present in any scripture that he has been posting here...
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:04 AM
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actually he doesn't quote from any scripture all that much...

he has his own sources from who knows where... like the presence of telepathy and telekinesis in heaven, ETs are actually fallen angels and the soul feeling 1000x more intensely than physical bodies...

theres plenty more other claims not present in any scripture that he has been posting here...
Without humility you won't understand. And it's obvious you won't.

So let's agree to disagree.

@Rich

What write a book about intellectual chimpanzees who believe we came from monkeys and those same monkeys came from sea creatures?

Atheism can't even REMOTELY EXPLAIN itself without first contradicting itself. To each his own right?

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Old 12-14-2012, 02:16 AM
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Without humility you won't understand. And it's obvious you won't.

So let's agree to disagree.

yeah maybe you are right... lets just disagree...

you are just making things up anyway...
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Old 12-14-2012, 06:21 AM
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Without humility you won't understand. And it's obvious you won't.

So let's agree to disagree.

@Rich

What write a book about a intellectual chimpanzees who believe we came from monkeys and those same monkeys came from sea creatures?

Atheism can't even REMOTELY EXPLAIN itself without first contradicting itself. To each his own right?
I suggest you learn about the thing you're criticising before you criticise it, that way you will look like less of an idiot.
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