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Old 12-10-2012, 03:23 AM
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At the end of the day What can anyone say if JMM passes the commission urine tests? It was known a long time ago who J.M.M has in his team.
A fighter in pacquiao's position has everything to gain and nothing to lose(if clean) to ask for vada/usada testing. Yet he never does, and didn't for yesterday's fight, why?
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:26 AM
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JMM said he'd been training since Fedchenko, 8 months ago, anticipating his next opponent would be Pac.

Considering the shape he was already in, his established work ethic, and knowing this is his last opportunity, that's an entirely expected physique to have on fight night.

In fact, if he didn't look like that I'd be wondering what the hell he was doing for 8 months.

Furthermore, his physique didn't even win the fight. In case some people are too moronic to realise, PEDs don't teach you timing and how to set traps.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:29 AM
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JMM said he'd been training since Fedchenko, 8 months ago, anticipating his next opponent would be Pac.

Considering the shape he was already in, his established work ethic, and knowing this is his last opportunity, that's an entirely expected physique to have on fight night.

In fact, if he didn't look like that I'd be wondering what the hell he was doing for 8 months.

Furthermore, his physique didn't even win the fight. In case some people are too moronic to realise, PEDs don't teach you timing and how to set traps.

No man, he's 40, no way he can look like that.


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Old 12-10-2012, 03:30 AM
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No man, he's 40, no way he can look like that.


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Lol it's been done before but let's ignore history and how the fight panned out because we're all retards on here!
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:33 AM
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At the end of the day What can anyone say if JMM passes the commission urine tests? It was known a long time ago who J.M.M has in his team.
A fighter in pacquiao's position has everything to gain and nothing to lose(if clean) to ask for vada/usada testing. Yet he never does, and didn't for yesterday's fight, why?
No amount of best test available on the planet will be able to catch Heredia's milkshake.

For years, Mr. Heredia said, he helped his clients (Olympic medalists ) flout the rules and easily avoided detection. Substances like human growth hormone and the blood booster erythropoietin, or EPO, are still virtually impossible to detect, and "it is still easy to use testosterone" with fast-acting creams, he said.

"You combine all these things -boom! - you get amazing results," Mr. Heredia said.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:34 AM
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Pac fought younger prime Marquez 3 times before this fight and none of those Marquez best shots hurt him visibly let alone knock him down but this 40 year old grandpa Marquez is scary man. I wonder why he hired Heredia just to carry his water bucket. Hmn..
When are you gonna understand that Manny walked into the perfect punch? Manny DIDN'T SEE THE PUNCH AT ALL. Marquez hit him directly on the chin and rattled Manny's brain and put him to sleep. It's a perfect punch... Marquez doesn't have 1 hit KO power but he can KO people if he hit them with a perfect shot they don't see coming. Just like Martinez vs Williams. Williams took all of Sergio's best shots in their first fight but why did he get KO'D in the 2nd fight? It's because Sergio hit Williams with a perfect hook that Williams never seen coming and it rattle his brain and put him to sleep.

Also, Marquez prepared for this fight to happen again. They were talking about it happening again last year after the 3rd fight ended. Marquez was obviously getting in shape throughout all that time to campaign at 147. I clearly remember Marquez saying that he would fight Manny one more time and then retire and he said this at the start of 2012. So he obviously knew this fight was going to happen again this year. He prepared for it early.

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Old 12-10-2012, 03:34 AM
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At the end of the day What can anyone say if JMM passes the commission urine tests? It was known a long time ago who J.M.M has in his team.
A fighter in pacquiao's position has everything to gain and nothing to lose(if clean) to ask for vada/usada testing. Yet he never does, and didn't for yesterday's fight, why?
This much, I agree with.

Pac is in the position to demand better testing, but he did nothing, so it's really his own fault. But this is a guy who genuinely seemed like he didn't care that Bradley got the decision. He's a simplistic, naive dude, who believes everything is gods plan. When's the last time Pac ever demanded anything? Hes the last person to demand testing.

Not all fighters are like Floyd, some fighters need someone to look out for themselves. Pacs a fighter, not a thinker, thats for sure. Pac's not the kinda guy to demand every advantage, and he paid for it.

And I'm sure he thought he'd win, regardless of JMMs new found body. But the first knock down, probably notified Pac that this JMM was a new beast. Yea, Pac coulda still won, thats what he banked on, but JMM's new body also provided him with a better chin, not just more power.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:41 AM
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Yes because it is such a great hiding job that everyone and their mom is talking about it...
Yeah, and as long as he doesn't get caught then yeah, he is doing a pretty damn good job of hiding.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:43 AM
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Yeah, nevermind Pacquiao went on a weight class binge from 135, 140, 147, & 154 in a matter of two years. Some fighters stay at the same weight class their entire career. Aside from Mayweather, where were the accusations there. He was beating up on bigger dudes, walking through their punches like nothing, and knocking these huge dudes out or beating them up badly. Marquez did not look spectacular yesterday, and was looking like he was on his way to getting stopped. Marquez looked every bit his age, yesterday. He looked sluggish and somewhat immobile. Everybody needs to stop with these allegations, considering Marquez has never denied taking any tests to prove he is clean, unlike someone else. I was feeling bad for Pacquiao getting ktfo, but these Pacquiao fans are something else.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:47 AM
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What's funny is this exposes all the Floyd fans pretending to be crusaders for better testing. It clearly shows their true agenda and how they follow Floyd like sheep.

Fair enough Pacquiao jumped into a punch and doubled the power, dumb move. BUT don't tell me that not one of you were surprised Pac went down to a single right hand from JMM in round 3. Pac's eaten bigger punches than that so something is up.

I'm going to give JMM the benefit of the doubt and say that Pac's been partying up with his corrupt government official friends too much and cooked his brain, hence lowering his punch resistance to that of Amir Khan's.
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