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Old 12-09-2012, 06:34 PM
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Old 12-09-2012, 06:34 PM
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Who gives Conte the benefit of the doubt?
The Filipino fanbase. He gets a pass because he works with Nonito Donaire.
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Old 12-09-2012, 06:35 PM
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Question: why is it ok to give Victor Conte the benefit of the doubt and allow him to start over new, but not ok to do the same for Memo?
because conte served his time...he knew what he did was wrong. instead of being a snitch to avoid jail time (like heredia did) he recognized what he did was bad and served the time/learned his lesson. so you think a guy who actually served time is willing to risk going through that again? he puts himself out in the open..he doesn't work in secrecy like heredia does..everyone knows he helped guys like donaire, ward, rios, etc...he actually exposed heredia for changing his name/identity. heredia/hernandez/whatever alias he chooses to use is just shady as hell....

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Old 12-09-2012, 06:42 PM
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because conte served his time...he knew what he did was wrong. instead of being a snitch to avoid jail time (like heredia did) he recognized what he did was bad and served the time.


That's it? Heredia knows that what he did was wrong too. He has said he was young and dumb.

Do you think he really wants to get in trouble again after making deals with the feds?

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well he did used to help olympic athletes cheat their testing.....so not surprising he wouldn't be worried about his fighters taking extra testing.
I could say the same about Conte....he knows how to make drugs that pass a lot of the tests. Having him be connected to VADA is like letting the fox guard the hen house.
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Old 12-09-2012, 06:43 PM
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It was Victor Conte who first noticed Heredia***8217;s involvement with Marquez while watching an episode of ***8220;24/7***8221; last year. The conditioning coach was using the name ***8220;Angel Hernandez***8221; and as soon as Conte recognized him, he revealed via Twitter that Memo***8217;s true surname was actually ***8220;Heredia.***8221; Conte outlined to this publication the key differences between his own involvement in the BALCO case and that of Heredia.

***8220;In 2005, I pled guilty in the BALCO case to a small quantity of steroid distribution and money laundering. I made a decision not to cooperate with federal law enforcement and/or testify against any others involved in the case. I simply agreed to accept full responsibility for the serious mistakes I had made, which included a sentence of four months in a prison camp and four months of home detention.

***8220;Memo was not actually involved directly in the BALCO case. He decided to become a government witness in a separate perjury case that was brought against Marion Jones***8217; track coach, Trevor Graham,***8221; added Conte. ***8220;Trevor was charged with lying to the lead investigator in the BALCO case, Jeff Novitzky. At some point during the investigation, Memo admitted to prosecutors that he had supplied PEDs to Trevor and his group of elite track-and-field athletes. So he was basically facing drug trafficking and money laundering charges. In short, Memo made a deal with Novitzky to become the government***8217;s star witness against Graham in exchange for leniency. In 2008, Trevor Graham was convicted of perjury and athletes involved lost their championship medals. Although the government knew that Memo had been at the top of a drug distribution chain, he walked free from a potential case in exchange for testifying against a coach and athletes that he had previously sold drugs.***8221;
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Old 12-09-2012, 06:44 PM
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Do you think Tiger Muhammad need Memo? Or he's still too young?
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Old 12-09-2012, 06:46 PM
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Old 12-09-2012, 06:47 PM
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That's it? Heredia knows that what he did was wrong too. He has said he was young and dumb.

Do you think he really wants to get in trouble again after making deals with the feds?



I could say the same about Conte....he knows how to make drugs that pass a lot of the tests. Having him be connected to VADA is like letting the fox guard the hen house.
1- he still meets with the Feds to drop dime, its part of his plea. Novitsky met with him this past week.
2- Conte doesn't "know" how to mix PEDs. Memo does he makes designer PEDs and charges 6 figures a batch
3-Learn the differences between VADA and WADA/USADA. How/When/What they test for. You make yourself seem ignorant and/or uninformed.
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Old 12-09-2012, 06:47 PM
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He seems to be a very good strength and conditioning coach.
he seems to be alright ... If Pauli Malinagi hired him he'd be a beast
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Old 12-09-2012, 06:48 PM
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That's it? Heredia knows that what he did was wrong too. He has said he was young and dumb.

Do you think he really wants to get in trouble again after making deals with the feds?
then why the secrecy? why does he not feel comfortable about revealing the other 9 world champions..conte doesn't seem to have a problem with it. donaire, ward, rios were all part of conte's services...also why the name change? face it heredia or hernandez or whatever name he chooses to hide behind is shady as **** compared to conte...heredia never served time, never took the time to actually think over his mistakes like conte did. conte knows if he gets caught again it's OVER ..he's had his first strike...heredia got away free with a slap on the wrist.

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I could say the same about Conte....he knows how to make drugs that pass a lot of the tests. Having him be connected to VADA is like letting the fox guard the hen house.
again it goes back to why would he risk it? he served his time, recognized it was wrong rather than snitching like a ***** to get away from serving time..
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