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View Poll Results: Who will be remembered as the greater fighter Bernard Hopkins or Juan Manuel Marquez?
Bernard Hopkins 58 57.43%
Juan Manuel Marquez 43 42.57%
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Old 12-30-2012, 10:41 PM
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If BHOP dominates Cloud, then Hopkins gets the nod for me. Hopkins is the better boxer but Cloud is strong and younger. If he whoops him up at over 40 years old, I'll be highly impressed.

As far as accomplishments, I give it to BHOP easily but in terms of the greater boxer.....pretty close.
Just another reason why Hopkins should continue until he no longer can. I've read some posts where people dismiss his fight against Cloud as "He will probably beat CLoud but so what, he has nothing to prove anymore and he is too old and holds too much". BLAH. NONSENSE.

If we're still on here debating whether he is greater or not against a still active fighter in JMM, then that's incentive to keep on pressin'. And as you said, a win over Cloud for the IBF Light-Heavyweight Title just might put him over the top (unless JMM pulls something else out of his hat).
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Old 12-30-2012, 10:45 PM
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nobody gives a **** about Bernard
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I 2nd that
You have 5 posts in your forum life and a sh1tty log-in name. I'd say that nobody gives a fuk about what you think.

Nothing personal. Just statistics.
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Old 12-30-2012, 10:48 PM
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Maybe Jones beat him clearly but not Calzaghe and Taylor. And Marquez was dominated by Mayweather so he's not arguably undefeated.
Yes.

JMM was one victory away from not only being greater than Hopkins but great than a bunch of other fighters too. Had he beaten Mayweather we would have a whole different debate in here right now.
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Old 12-30-2012, 10:49 PM
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JMM more liked and remembered. Hopkin's is great but he is in some boring fights.
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Old 12-31-2012, 06:37 AM
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I mean he has what? Felix Trinidad? Fat Oscar? Tarver? Pavlik? Pascal?

Marquez has Pacquiao 4x, Barrera, Gainer, John, Casamayor, and Diaz
Misleading list because you named only people b- hop beat but when mentioing marquez you mentioned people he lost to aswel.

Outside of that 1 win over a declining Pac who was coming off a loss, marquez doesnt have any other great win. The next best would be over a washed up Barrera who floored and outlanded Marquez and Lederman had Marquez losing. Outside that, past it Csa maybe?

Hopkins has more ins over prime fighters so he ranks higher.
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Old 12-31-2012, 08:00 AM
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hopkins easily, unless juan continues fighting top notch opponents anyway
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Old 12-31-2012, 09:38 AM
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Has to be Hopkins. Marquez is a great fighter but Hopkins run at MW, though lacking any true star quality apart from Oscar and Tito was pretty impressive, then moving up to LHW and winning the lineal title and beating a bunch of much younger, hungry, highly gifted, hard hitting foes while he was well into his 40s is simply astounding and unparalleled.
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