Did Marquez just destroy Mayweather's legacy?

[sapaw]

Originally Posted by boxingfeind

Same lame excuse to try to discredit Floyd`s win against the fighter that ko`ed the Pacfraud.Marquez did not look any faster in the Pacquiao fights at welterweight then the Mayweather fight.Marquez was just more ripped for the 3rd and 4th Pacquiao fight so the differences was just cosmetic.Plus in the 3rd and 4th fight Pac fought an older version of Marquez moving up in weight.


Also at the weigh in for Pac/Marquez 4,Pacquiao came in at 147 and Marquez came in at 143 and Pacquiao still got knocked out.At the weigh in for Floyd/Marquez,Floyd came in at 146 and Marquez came in at 142 and Floyd schooled Marquez on fight night.So Pacquiao came in 5 pounds heavier at the weigh in but still got knocked out by near 40 year old Marquez and Floyd came in 4 pounds heavier at the weigh in coming off a 2 year lay-off and schooled Marquez who was younger then the version Pac fought in the 3rd and 4th fight with Marquez.

yeah, same excuse you giving Cotto just to discredit Pac on his win against cotto? lol!

Marquez win (KO) against Pac actually did not change Floyd's legacy but changes the legacy from Pac vs Floyd to Marquez vs Pac and give more legacy to Warquez. It also did not change the legacy of Pac coz like Hearns, Duran and other ATGs, they have been KOed but one thing they have in common, they are fighting the best fighters on their time... Floyd's legacy will be consistent... as a boxer known for ducking Prime fighters on his time...

[lebrick]

Originally Posted by boxingfeind

Same lame excuse to try to discredit Floyd`s win against the fighter that ko`ed the Pacfraud.Marquez did not look any faster in the Pacquiao fights at welterweight then the Mayweather fight.Marquez was just more ripped for the 3rd and 4th Pacquiao fight so the differences was just cosmetic.Plus in the 3rd and 4th fight Pac fought an older version of Marquez moving up in weight.


Also at the weigh in for Pac/Marquez 4,Pacquiao came in at 147 and Marquez came in at 143 and Pacquiao still got knocked out.At the weigh in for Floyd/Marquez,Floyd came in at 146 and Marquez came in at 142 and Floyd schooled Marquez on fight night.So Pacquiao came in 5 pounds heavier at the weigh in but still got knocked out by near 40 year old Marquez and Floyd came in 4 pounds heavier at the weigh in coming off a 2 year lay-off and schooled Marquez who was younger then the version Pac fought in the 3rd and 4th fight with Marquez.

so pac 147 & JMM 143 have 5 lbs differential while PBF 146 & 142 have 4 lbs differential...... brillliant..

[Vanorge]

Originally Posted by boxingfeind

Same lame excuse to try to discredit Floyd`s win against the fighter that ko`ed the Pacfraud.Marquez did not look any faster in the Pacquiao fights at welterweight then the Mayweather fight.Marquez was just more ripped for the 3rd and 4th Pacquiao fight so the differences was just cosmetic.Plus in the 3rd and 4th fight Pac fought an older version of Marquez moving up in weight.


Also at the weigh in for Pac/Marquez 4,Pacquiao came in at 147 and Marquez came in at 143 and Pacquiao still got knocked out.At the weigh in for Floyd/Marquez,Floyd came in at 146 and Marquez came in at 142 and Floyd schooled Marquez on fight night.So Pacquiao came in 5 pounds heavier at the weigh in but still got knocked out by near 40 year old Marquez and Floyd came in 4 pounds heavier at the weigh in coming off a 2 year lay-off and schooled Marquez who was younger then the version Pac fought in the 3rd and 4th fight with Marquez.

first off i'm not trying to discredit anything just staiting facts. marquez was actually slower that first time at WW. why do you think he changed up his camp after for the pac 3 fight, consentrating on SPEED. he even said it in plenty of interviews.

also May didn't struggle to make wieght and actually came in on fight night around 160lb. COME ON MAAAANNN!!!!

read what i wrote i still think May has great skills, he just doesn't test himself is all I'm saying.

[EDD1]

Originally Posted by Vanorge

first off i'm not trying to discredit anything just staiting facts. marquez was actually slower that first time at WW. why do you think he changed up his camp after for the pac 3 fight, consentrating on SPEED. he even said it in plenty of interviews.

also May didn't struggle to make wieght and actually came in on fight night around 160lb. COME ON MAAAANNN!!!!

read what i wrote i still think May has great skills, he just doesn't test himself is all I'm saying.

Its no use man, this was a bait thread from the beginning. The sport as a whole would have benefited from a fight between pac and may, but what happened was a great fight between JMM and pac, period.

What no one can deny is that Marquez did cost may a big payday and losing money is not one of jr's habits

[The Weebler II]

It won't destroy Mayweather's legacy but it certainly damages it and it will be damaged a lot more in years to come.

[Reloaded]

Originally Posted by The Weebler II

It won't destroy Mayweather's legacy but it certainly damages it and it will be damaged a lot more in years to come.

Its makes it higher you idiot , it makes his win over JMM a stellar performance for the books , not that real boxing fans didnt realize just how much class he showed against such a great fighter in Marquez , people looking back will see what Floyd did to Juan at the same weight and what Juan did to Manny , you kids are retarded , your not even boxing fans just serial haters .

[handwraps]

Originally Posted by check hook

Seems to be lost on everyone that this enhanced Mayweathers legacy plenty to the casual observers and any non casual observer who doesn't despise him. He didn't just beat JMM 12-zip, he dominated him. You can't find a round where JMM had sustained success for any period longer than 20 seconds.

If you base all this bull on the mayweather win over marquez then its sad. Marquez was bloated and mayweather didnt even make weight. people love your man

[The Weebler II]

Originally Posted by IronDanHamza

If anything, it made Mayweather's better.

Whether it be right or wrong, the majority of people 10-20 years will say "Mayweather shut out the guy who knocked Pacquaio flat on his face ala Duran-Hearns".

That's depends if Mayweather goes on to lose or not though.

If boxing fans still talk about the fighters RJJ ducked in his prime 10+ years ago (and they do, extensively), they're going to have a field day with Mayweather in years to come and the Pacquiao 'fight that wasn't' will stand out like a sore thumb.

Mayweather losing in the future is a given, he is a spendthrift like Toney, Jones and Tyson.

[Reloaded]

Originally Posted by handwraps

If you base all this bull on the mayweather win over marquez then its sad. Marquez was bloated and mayweather didnt even make weight. people love your man

Floyd was a pound smaller than Manny was you dimwit , you dont know a thing about boxing LOL , but Im sure you know what planking is all about eh !

[jaestix1]

floyd is a top 20-25 atg.....manny is somewhere around top 35-40 and jmm just cracked top 50.