Freddie Roach. - Page 2

Luffy

overrated.... pac went on a streak and all of a sudden hes the best trainer

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He was always overrated. I cant believe some retards had him in the same spot as Nacho.

Nacho forged real elite world champions from scratch that were p4p bosses.

Roach got lucky he got pacquiao and some decent fighters flocked to him during some good times.

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When the same thing heppen over and over, there are something wrong.

Roach fighters all lack defense, and strategy

Fighting_Pride

nah, roach ain't over rated, that's just hate talk, pacquiao just got careless for for a second and marquez capitalized

FeFist

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Originally Posted by Fighting_Pride

nah, roach ain't over rated, that's just hate talk, pacquiao just got careless for for a second and marquez capitalized

Carelessness is a trait often associated with Freddie Roach fighters along with an inability to fight on the inside and defend. The end of the day carelessness is also Roach's fault it shows that as a trainer he is failing to teach his fighters discipline and patience.

FeFist

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Originally Posted by sdcluser

TBH, Manny was winning this fight so the preparation/ game plan was done correctly.

But from his winning - losing ratio, he is getting a D-/F at this point in big fights.

No it wasn't done correctly. He was up by one point and getting counter with some hellacious shots.

Medved

I been saying for years Roach is a shiet overrated trainer who Hollywoods and loves any camera he sees. Dude sucks as a trainer and got lucky with Pac being so popular, he doesnt develop ANY of his fighters or teach them anything new.

Only reason people give him a pass is because of Parkinsons which I think is completely stupid to do.

Deevel916

Pac's KO loss has nothing to do with Freddy. It was a good fight where Pac was also looking very good up until the KO. It was a shot that he just didnt see coming and walked right into. Its boxing. It happens.

FeFist

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Originally Posted by Deevel916

Pac's KO loss has nothing to do with Freddy. It was a good fight where Pac was also looking very good up until the KO. It was a shot that he just didnt see coming and walked right into. Its boxing. It happens.

People's definition of looking ''very good'' is incredibly skewed. He walked on to big shots because he fought without discipline. It is why Bayless had to tell him to take a step back when he was rushing towards the center of the ring, it is why he got his ass planted to the ground in the third round and it is why he walked into that big shot in the 6th round.

Do people say ''Ooh Hatton just walked into that checkhook'' or do they focus on the fact that he shouldn't have been so careless.

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