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Old 12-08-2012, 12:45 PM
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Vascularity is mainly a product of low bodyfat. Steroids not necessarily required although, like with everything else, I'm sure they can help.
lol your acting like a professional conditioning coach informing everyone. Veins aren't "mainly a product of low BF" there are plenty of supplements that yoke up your veins. Generally when you get stronger and have better endurance, your veins increase in size to push more blood to your muscles. If you have ever seen anyone start taking the juice their veins will most definitely increase in size.

Veins will also increase in size by hard work and even pre workout supplements. I remember when no explode came out (Pacquiao used to use) i was able to workout really hard until it wore off after 2 weeks, but my veins permanently grew.
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Old 12-08-2012, 12:47 PM
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Old 12-08-2012, 12:49 PM
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lol your acting like a professional conditioning coach informing everyone. Veins aren't "mainly a product of low BF" there are plenty of supplements that yoke up your veins. Generally when you get stronger and have better endurance, your veins increase in size to push more blood to your muscles. If you have ever seen anyone start taking the juice their veins will most definitely increase in size.

Veins will also increase in size by hard work and even pre workout supplements. I remember when no explode came out (Pacquiao used to use) i was able to workout really hard until it wore off after 2 weeks, but my veins permanently grew.
you must be really sensitive if no explode works on you that stuff is junk never work on me
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Old 12-08-2012, 12:58 PM
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Whether its proven or not that Marquez was doing something illegal to enhance his physique only time will tell. I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt. Marquez is top three when it comes to discipline in taking care of his body. He right there with Mayweather and Hopkins. These guys aren't beating up their bodies like say Chavez jr who has to drop probably 50 pounds to get in shape. He said they prepared for about 4 months, and for someone who takes care of his body all year round I could see how you could get the weigh in result through hard work. Like I said, only time will tell.
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Old 12-08-2012, 01:02 PM
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Old 12-08-2012, 03:32 PM
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listen anyone who does not see that he is clearly on some type of ped is just plain stupid or blind

i myself have run numerous cycles and can tell u that i am 100% sure he is on somthing what exactly i dont know , like angel herdia said he can make u any type of untraceable ped u want for 100k the stuff ive taken was a couple hundred bucks lol
it makes you look good i.e his viens ,traps ,abs
but did not help me in the ring ,but for 100k i would imagine it does
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Old 12-08-2012, 04:46 PM
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The only way to tell if these two are juicing is to test both of them. JMM said he would be willing to....what about Pacquaio?
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Old 12-08-2012, 04:54 PM
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