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Old 12-06-2012, 07:30 PM
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Or were they significantly different?
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Old 12-06-2012, 11:04 PM
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I do know that Cuba had several world champions before Communism came to the island.
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Old 12-06-2012, 11:22 PM
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Not long after the revolution the USSR sent numerous trainers to Cuba for Olympic sports, boxing being tje main one. Im on my.phone now or else id post some cool.info.
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Old 12-06-2012, 11:26 PM
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Here's a quick nugget:
The Soviet Union sent experienced boxing coach Andrei Chervorenko to help develop Cuban fighters in order to assist its socialist brethren in their goals. Along with Cuba***8217;s own Alcides Sagarra, Chervorenko helped develop a comprehensive national recruiting and training program based on the Soviet model. Alcides Sagarra became Cuba***8217;s boxing head coach in 1960 and then later passed on his position to Sarbelio Fuentes in 2001.
The Cuban amateur boxing system along with other sports programs start in grammar schools. Sports are considered a high priority in the Cuban education system and it***8217;s there a potential athlete can be recognized. From the age of 12, talented youths are sent to specialized schools where they can focus on enhancing their skills. From there the young boxers train throughout a very competitive youth program. The ones that graduate from the program are sent to the top school in Wajay, where they train advanced drills and exercises.[15] The support that the state gives is crucial to the advancement of the highly technical boxing program.[16]

Amateur boxer Teofilo Stevenson who had won three Olympic gold medals in (1972, 1976, and 1980) has made many contributions to Cuba and Cuban boxing. He is equally known for his sportsmanship and with the UNESCO Pierre de Coubertin Fair Play prize in 1989. After retiring in boxing in 1986 he has served both in the Cuban parliament and as a vice president of the Cuban Boxing Federation.[17]

After a career of fighting for their country most Cubans continue to stay in the sport, many as administrators or trainers. Through this way the knowledge and experience is passed down to the next generation of athletes.
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Old 12-07-2012, 12:40 AM
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Cuba produced Kid Gavilan and Kid Chocolate and others long before the USSR showed them anything.
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Old 12-07-2012, 01:14 AM
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Old 12-07-2012, 02:05 AM
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I remember the first time I heard of the man. I was watching an amateur boxing show on ABC's "Wide World of Sports", with Howard Cosell. It was one of those USA vs. Cuba cards. I can still recall how Cosell, with a reverential tone, pointed out the "great Alcides Sagarra."
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Old 12-07-2012, 05:37 PM
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Good info and history. Will have to read up more on Sagarras and Chervorrenko.
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