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Old 12-05-2012, 11:08 AM #31
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Do you take everything a boxer say literally.

Look at Ricky Hatton vs Pacquiao and his last fight. He said he felt great but after losing he was saying he overtrained.
so are you calling marquez a liar ?! if he says he became faster i believe him ! why ? because i see with my own 2 eyes how much faster he is now since angel came into his life , with his new "training regimine" ! i was at the gym a few days ago and someone who was training at marquez gym was telling me how fast marquez has became ! he said marquez hand speed was almost as fast as gamboa and bronner ! now i ask you this my friend , other than marquez ,can you name one boxer at the age of 40 that has become faster and put on so much muscle in a short period of time! i cant think of one if you can please enlightewn me as i am always striving for the truth
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:12 AM #32
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pacquiao was 28-29 when he moved up, damn physical prime

marquez is ****in 40 and more shredded than he has been in his entire life
and then you have heredia

how is it not suspicious?
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:20 AM #33
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Marquez didn't gain any speed. Slowest I've ever seen him in that fight.
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:22 AM #34
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Thankfully he doesn't have a 7 man team of insurgents like Margarito that just run around pot shotting people from trees in the jungle; throwing little pebbles then running away giggling.
lol^^^


but let's be real.. Most likely they'll say because of who his stength and conditioning trainer is but completely forget that Roach trained James Toney, who failed drug tests in the past. Makes no sense whatsoever
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I like you Ric, I really do but Im losing respect for you here.

Pacquaio gained his speed and power during prime years and is obviously diminishing. While Marquez at damn near 40 years old is getting bigger, faster and stronger.

And lastly, look who he's working with.
If you ask me there is no proof that Pacquiao is'nt on steroids so why would'nt Marquez want to make it a fair fight. Marquez just wants a fair fight and he know the only way to do that is to do what Pacquiao does. The only ones who really care are the *******s that realise their man might lose because he's in a fair fight!!
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Marquez didn't gain any speed. Slowest I've ever seen him in that fight.
This is what I'm thinking.

He's not suddenly quick. If anything, he's slower.
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:41 AM #37
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Pac apologist now remember that JMM is 40? Lol, who cares if he put on muscle at 40? Isn't not like that's why he gives Pac a tough fight, He gives Pac tough fights because of his style and experience.
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Marquez didn't gain any speed. Slowest I've ever seen him in that fight.
Yeah, I've been wondering which fight people are looking at. He looked slower and more off balance in that fight than in any other fight I'd ever seen him in.

He fought smart and used excellent footwork, but apart from that, he looked heavy, slow, and more uncoordinated and off balance than ever.
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:45 AM #39
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so are you calling marquez a liar ?! if he says he became faster i believe him ! why ? because i see with my own 2 eyes how much faster he is now since angel came into his life , with his new "training regimine" ! i was at the gym a few days ago and someone who was training at marquez gym was telling me how fast marquez has became ! he said marquez hand speed was almost as fast as gamboa and bronner ! now i ask you this my friend , other than marquez ,can you name one boxer at the age of 40 that has become faster and put on so much muscle in a short period of time! i cant think of one if you can please enlightewn me as i am always striving for the truth
Marquez as fast as Gamboa and Broner. You would have to be born again to improve that much. We will see in fight night how fast he became or if he looks the same speed as usual.
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lol^^^


but let's be real.. Most likely they'll say because of who his stength and conditioning trainer is but completely forget that Roach trained James Toney, who failed drug tests in the past. Makes no sense whatsoever
Not even that, Roach has stated he has a "don't ask, don't tell" policy regarding PEDs at wild card. He knew Toney was juicing and Toney knew he knew, didn't effect their working relationship at all...Roach don't give a fuk.
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