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Old 12-04-2012, 03:34 PM
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Broner >>>> Floyd. floyd is and has always been corny. broner is a young dude acting like a young dude.

Floyd is a old dude who acts like a young dude.
Dude how can you say Floyd is corny and not Broner? Floyd may be corny but Broner is 100x cornier for the simple fact he tries to imitate Floyd so hard and he fails.
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Old 12-04-2012, 03:36 PM
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His interviews are like... Horrible. His IQ shows every time, it never fails.

Im curious to know his highest level of education. Anyone?
didnt he mention he dropped out of HS before the demarco fight.
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Old 12-04-2012, 03:55 PM
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didnt he mention he dropped out of HS before the demarco fight.
Idk I don't listen to that guy. Im starting to mute my TV, change the channel or X the river out.

Dropped out of HS huh? It all makes sense now even tho Im surprised he made it that far.
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Old 12-04-2012, 04:02 PM
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Idk I don't listen to that guy. Im starting to mute my TV, change the channel or X the river out.

Dropped out of HS huh? It all makes sense now even tho Im surprised he made it that far.
dude isn't that bad. i'm more concerned that he may have more out of wedlock children than holyfield.
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Old 12-04-2012, 04:41 PM
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The fact that you attempt to define floyd's whole career based on what he has done post ODH is pretty sad. Floyd and his advisers made the calculation that limiting fighting was the best way to keep his brand up. For someone (and there are an awful lot of you) that openly post how much you despise watching floyd's style, for you to complain about his fighting only once a year is a contradiction of the highest order.

No matter how you spin it, when floyd fights, its a massive event. That is only good for the sport. The fact that he makes most of the money rather than the promoters is also good for the sport. The only negatives he brings IMO is the violence within his family personal life.

Obviously Broner (and Haymon) are not going to do the same thing right now. But if Broner starts getting really big money he likely will down the road. Brand building is as important as skill building in this day and age. At some point, you need to accept the landscape has changed.
This is a bunch of hot fanboy trash. I like watching Floyd fight and yes, it was better befor Oscar because he used to fight. You paint this guy as a genius at self promotion and that Al Haymon has devised this cunning marketing strategy. Who told him the lottery soda ads were a good idea? Which genius came up with the line "I know y'all wanna mix dat wit you.......sizzer"?

I like what Floyd can do when he fights, when he really fights. He is an artist at times in the ring, absolutely brilliant and as he has slowed down a bit he has also showed he has some guts(Mosley, Cotto).

This whole I'm a promoter thing is bollocks as well. He ISNT a promoter, he is in a position to be a free agent which basically means he can negotiate for each bout as a one off fight...that is smart, gotta give him credit for that, but every time he fights GBP is the promoter, not him.

Your attempt at a lecture in brand building is the funniest bit though. If they were trying to build a brand with him then they would be trying to covet every big endorsment they could get. What, you think at some point him and Al Haymon have had a conversation like this -

Al Haymon "Floyd please, I am trying to build a brand here...You love money and think how much deals with Nike, Apple, Adidas, Femidom etc. could net you....if you can stop acting like a cunt every time you leave your house we can clean up, baby".

Floyd Mayweather "Nah...na need Al...fvck them ma'fvckers...I got lottery soda baby and I also gats San Marino to win da soccer world cup...Money team y'all"

Al Haymon "Floyd, thats genius...why didnt I think of that? By selling a soda that not even the most degenerate idiot would buy and backing a series of three legged goats in horse races, you have proven to me that you are a shrewd and wise businessman"

Floyd Mayweather "Thats right, baby....I gots my own drinks!...you can go now, and if that taxman keeps pestering you, just tell him I gave all my money away to a battered womens refuge and emigrated to to the mountainous region of coastal Holland".

How the hell have you had the stamina to keep defending this clown?...dont tell me...

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Old 12-04-2012, 05:01 PM
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This is a bunch of hot fanboy trash. I like watching Floyd fight and yes, it was better befor Oscar because he used to fight. You paint this guy as a genius at self promotion and that Al Haymon has devised this cunning marketing strategy. Who told him the lottery soda ads were a good idea? Which genius came up with the line "I know y'all wanna mix dat wit you.......sizzer"?

I like what Floyd can do when he fights, when he really fights. He is an artist at times in the ring, absolutely brilliant and as he has slowed down a bit he has also showed he has some guts(Mosley, Cotto).

This whole I'm a promoter thing is bollocks as well. He ISNT a promoter, he is in a position to be a free agent which basically means he can negotiate for each bout as a one off fight...that is smart, gotta give him credit for that, but every time he fights GBP is the promoter, not him.

Your attempt at a lecture in brand building is the funniest bit though. If they were trying to build a brand with him then they would be trying to covet every big endorsment they could get. What, you think at some point him and Al Haymon have had a conversation like this -

Al Haymon "Floyd please, I am trying to build a brand here...You love money and think how much deals with Nike, Apple, Adidas, Femidom etc. could net you....if you can stop acting like a cunt every time you leave your house we can clean up, baby".

Floyd Mayweather "Nah...na need Al...fvck them ma'fvckers...I got lottery soda baby and I also gats San Marino to win da soccer world cup...Money team y'all"

Al Haymon "Floyd, thats genius...why didnt I think of that? By selling a soda that not even the most degenerate idiot would buy and backing a series of three legged goats in horse races, you have proven to me that you are a shrewd and wise businessman"

Floyd Mayweather "Thats right, baby....I gots my own drinks!...you can go now, and if that taxman keeps pestering you, just tell him I gave all my money away to a battered womens refuge and emigrated to to the mountainous region of coastal Holland".

How the hell have you had the stamina to keep defending this clown?...dont tell me...

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uhh what does lottery soda have to do with selling boxing ppv's? As for floyd and Haymon, check the resume. Haymon has made a millions in the entertainment industry. of course you want to measure this using lottery as opposed to the $40 mil he made his last fight.

I will go with what the New York times printed about his deal with GBP and how he promotes his fights. If you want to refute that, well its ok with me.

as usual, when you can't refute any point made you go with the defending thing again after some BS. Man, get something new. floyd's out of ring silliness and violence has cost him commercial opportunities no question. so since he isn't gonna get anymore AT&T commericals he has to try investment opportunities like Lottery. (if you ever see the adds in magazines lottery LOOKS like a pyramid scheme IMO)

Bottom line, the sport is better off since floyd left TR. Look at 24/7, how well it did, emmys won, and the spin offs its created on other networks. Look at his deal and how it gets more money in the fighter's pockets.

IMO it would be better, we agree, is if he fought more and if he used his undercards to put on great fights or gave underexposed talent more visibilty. these would help the sport.
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Old 12-04-2012, 05:31 PM
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uhh what does lottery soda have to do with selling boxing ppv's?
The more you make yourself look like a twat, the less appeal you have. Just imagine how many PPV's he would shift if he wasnt such a bell end!
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I get your point but Walt you need to ask yourself a simple question:

would you rather be Pretty Boy Floyd, making $3 mil on HBO and having ODH, SHane, Kosta, and every big earner telling you not now or would you rather be Money and be able to pick and choose and make no less than $20 mil a fight?

I think what floyd did on 24/7 is something every fighter needs to learn-self promotion. we can agree that some of the things floyd did were ridiculous, but the idea of utilizing platforms to increase your brand is something the Mikey Garcia's and Andre Ward's should focus on.
Those arent the only options in the world dunn. Id rather be oscar (minus wearing womens lingerie) and building a resume to continue being proud of of giving boxing fans the fights they want to see instead of scamming everyone. Amd making tons of dough and doing what i want.
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The more you make yourself look like a twat, the less appeal you have. Just imagine how many PPV's he would shift if he wasnt such a bell end!
there is no correlation between humiltiy/being a good guy and ppv sales. so stop that BS. floyd tried and failed. and yes he has made some stupid investments as well.

far as boxing, no one can question his success. he's rode the villian thing brilliantly, playing off the ODH and Hatton crowds expertly. Now that hasn't worked so much with JMM and Ortiz, but once Cotto was there, BANG, another 1.5 mil.

The only downside is that floyd pushed only himself. Broner will do same. It would be better for boxing if floyd used his undercards like don King did with Tyson and Chavez.
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