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Old 12-03-2012, 08:59 AM
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Both of Garcia's parents are born and raised in Puerto Rico so that counts. Btw Felix Verdejo debuts this week on ESPN he could be the next big thing and has Top Rank behind him.
Danny Garcia is a Puerto Rican-AMERICAN. He was born and raised here.
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:10 AM
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I'm not sure if Juanma is capable of coming back. He has taken 2 major beatings late in his career and has been out for a year already. Hopefully Dulorme can make a comeback, he got some good skills. Del Valle was brutalized but not destroyed like Dulorme so I think he will be alright. WV2 started boxing late and like you said he's short of good as well as a questionable chin.

The reason I'm not getting into the Garcia topic is cause some Cubans have embraced Quillin who's in the same situation as Garcia but I think he's been repping the flag longer. I like the guy (Quillin) but not cause of his nationality. Exciting fighter with alright skills who shows progression.

PRs got the Olympians but its probably gonna be a while till those guys make it into the scene.


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I don't mind Cubans and Puerto Ricans standing behind Quillin and Garcia. My only point is, if you're born here and raised here, you're American. You have American lifestyle and have American values and culture. You're American. Just because parents aren't from here it doesn't make you Puerto Rican or Cuban.
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:43 AM
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I'm not sure if Juanma is capable of coming back. He has taken 2 major beatings late in his career and has been out for a year already. Hopefully Dulorme can make a comeback, he got some good skills. Del Valle was brutalized but not destroyed like Dulorme so I think he will be alright. WV2 started boxing late and like you said he's short of good as well as a questionable chin.

The reason I'm not getting into the Garcia topic is cause some Cubans have embraced Quillin who's in the same situation as Garcia but I think he's been repping the flag longer. I like the guy (Quillin) but not cause of his nationality. Exciting fighter with alright skills who shows progression.

PRs got the Olympians but its probably gonna be a while till those guys make it into the scene.


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I don't mind Cubans and Puerto Ricans standing behind Quillin and Garcia. My only point is, if you're born here and raised here, you're American. You have American lifestyle and have American values and culture. You're American. Just because parents aren't from here it doesn't make you Puerto Rican or Cuban.
I wouldn't mind it either if he was repping the flag since earlier in his career....



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Old 12-03-2012, 09:43 AM
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:56 AM
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I still to this date think Dulorme (1 loss), Del Valle (1 loss), Seda (1 loss), Velazquez (0 Losses), Pedraza (0 losses), Bomba Gonzalez (0 Losses), McWilliams Arroyo (1 loss) can all still be world champions. I dont count fighters out after 1 loss. The guy I really liked and thought had potential decided to stay amateur (Jantony Ortiz) so I guess we will have to wait on him. Felix Verdejo did turn pro with Top Rank so we shall see how he goes from here.
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Old 12-03-2012, 10:03 AM
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I still to this date think Dulorme (1 loss), Del Valle (1 loss), Seda (1 loss), Velazquez (0 Losses), Pedraza (0 losses), Bomba Gonzalez (0 Losses), McWilliams Arroyo (1 loss) can all still be world champions. I dont count fighters out after 1 loss. The guy I really liked and thought had potential decided to stay amateur (Jantony Ortiz) so I guess we will have to wait on him. Felix Verdejo did turn pro with Top Rank so we shall see how he goes from here.
dulorme has a glass jaw with a shty defence.Del valle lost to a past
prime vic,Thats not good.Velazquez in lala land.Never been impressed
with pedraza.
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Old 12-03-2012, 10:12 AM
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So what your saying is PR should just follow PR fighters???? WOW!!!!
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Old 12-03-2012, 10:12 AM
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I still to this date think Dulorme (1 loss), Del Valle (1 loss), Seda (1 loss), Velazquez (0 Losses), Pedraza (0 losses), Bomba Gonzalez (0 Losses), McWilliams Arroyo (1 loss) can all still be world champions. I dont count fighters out after 1 loss. The guy I really liked and thought had potential decided to stay amateur (Jantony Ortiz) so I guess we will have to wait on him. Felix Verdejo did turn pro with Top Rank so we shall see how he goes from here.
I have to disagree with you and González. He doesnt seem dedicated. And as far as counting people out after 1 loss I agree but you know nowadays people lose their hype after losing that 0. Another thing is, some guys don't have the mental toughness to come back especially after a KO loss.


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Old 12-03-2012, 10:14 AM
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I still to this date think Dulorme (1 loss), Del Valle (1 loss), Seda (1 loss), Velazquez (0 Losses), Pedraza (0 losses), Bomba Gonzalez (0 Losses), McWilliams Arroyo (1 loss) can all still be world champions. I dont count fighters out after 1 loss. The guy I really liked and thought had potential decided to stay amateur (Jantony Ortiz) so I guess we will have to wait on him. Felix Verdejo did turn pro with Top Rank so we shall see how he goes from here.
I have to disagree with you and González. He doesnt seem dedicated. And as far as counting people out after 1 loss I agree but you know nowadays people lose their hype after losing that 0. Another thing is, some guys don't have the mental toughness to come back especially after a KO loss.


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Old 12-03-2012, 10:25 AM
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Mexico and Puerto Rico always produce great boxers, they have a great track record, calm down
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