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Old 11-27-2012, 12:09 AM
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I would be pissed off too, but would let him slide if it's a legitimate reason like none of the big name fighters being available.

People looking at the same scenarios but not thinking about the upsets.

Imagine if Trout beats Cotto, and then Trout beats Canelo in May. Imagine if Chavez Jr knocks out Martinez, imagine if Marquez beats Pacquiao.

After hypothetically beating Guerrero in 2013, that leaves Floyd with Trout[boring, not a fight I would be mad at Floyd for turning down], Chavez Jr[eliminated, Top Rank], and Marquez[who really wants to see a rematch?].

Obviously, from the scenario I said and the fighters I picked, Marquez is the most likely fighter that Floyd picks because of his name and because of the win he'd be coming off of.

If this was the case, would you really be mad at him for only fighting Guerrero in 2013? You could make a case for Trout, he'd be coming off Delvin, Cotto, Canelo...but i'm sorry, I rather watch Floyd vs Lara.

Now hopefully Cotto defeats Trout next Saturday and Canelo defeats Cotto in May 2013, and we get Canelo-Mayweather for September 2013.
That would be beautiful and my money would be on Canelo. By then Pac would be a full time politician while Floyd would be walking into a new era fighting the best of prime fighters.
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:13 AM
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Guerrero gets annhilated... trying to fight inside like that against Floyd will be devastating. Leaning in with his head exposed like that... my God. And, he will end up fighting like that, he'll start out trying to box, when that doesnt work he ll take it up close... and will realize quickly, that isnt going to work either.
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SO hed eat shlt all night....LOL like he did with Berto who hits way harder than Floyd....can any more irrelevant shlt come outta your mouth?
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:17 AM
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If Trout beats Cotto AND Canelo, he's the unified champ at 154 which is one of the strongest divisions in boxing.

I would not give Floyd a pass for avoiding Trout if he were to accomplish such a feat.

If that's the case, Guerrero in May and Trout in September.

Guerrero is an acceptable fight if he were to fight more than once next year. But given his history, his age and the amount of money he makes I don't see him fighting more than one time per year.
Unless he knocks Cotto and Canelo out, I really don;t want to see Mayweather-Trout.

You know fans ask for fights they don't even know what they're asking for. All they see is "Oh he's so accomplished, it would be such a good win". Bro, it would be a BORING fight and people will complain about how boring it was, not how good Floyd is for beating him.

^That was about 6 years of NSB experience.
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:19 AM
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Its a lot more mentally draining when you cant hit your opponent, and you keep getting countered. Floyd isnt Malignaggi either, people need to get that out of their heads, hes incredibly accurate.
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:22 AM
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Guerrero has done more than Canelo, fact. I'd love to see Canelo-Cotto because IF Canelo can beat Cotto, than he's 100% ready to fight Mayweather.

Martinez is a god damn MW, and is steady avoiding his own biggest threat IN HIS OWN DIVISION.....Gennady Golovkin. And Martinez is already slated to return in Argentina and than probably fight a CHavez rematch. Sergio has his own fish to fry at 160, against Golovkin/Geale/Pirog/Quillin. Plenty of fights for Sergio in his own division, he can make his legacy there and stop calling out fighters from 147-154, it's sickening really.

Floyd-Pac will never happen, it pisses me off to the fullest. When Floyd is ready, Manny says 50-50 or no fight. When Manny becomes ready, it's when he already has another fight lined up and signed, for instance Manny finally agreeing to take lesser % again after signing to fight Marquez. I hope to god that fight happens, but I won't hold my breath.
why would sergio want to fight those no name bums at 160 (except GGG is a beast). those won't make him good money. he should just beat the **** out of Chavez again and then keep going for Floyd or Canelo or Cotto, get sergio some paper he deserves it
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:25 AM
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wouldn't mind it. nice tune up.
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:29 AM
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If Floyd was fighting Guerrero on regular HBO, I would say great, good for him. Like when De La Hoya fought Steve Forbes for what he thought was a tune up for a Mayweather rematch.
But to put this garbage on PPV and ask fans to pay 60 bucks or more is just ridiculous.
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:32 AM
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Unless he knocks Cotto and Canelo out, I really don;t want to see Mayweather-Trout.

You know fans ask for fights they don't even know what they're asking for. All they see is "Oh he's so accomplished, it would be such a good win". Bro, it would be a BORING fight and people will complain about how boring it was, not how good Floyd is for beating him.

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Yeah I think different than most. We've seen swarmers try to maul him over and over again and he picks them apart on the inside every time.

If someone like Trout or even Lara were to emerge as top guys at 154 I think it gives us something we haven't seen before. Plus it addresses the criticism that he avoids elite black fighters that can match his athleticism which has been brought up before.

But the likelihood of Trout pulling such a feat is very small so I'm not expecting that type of scenario.
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:32 AM
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I would be pissed off too, but would let him slide if it's a legitimate reason like none of the big name fighters being available.

People looking at the same scenarios but not thinking about the upsets.

Imagine if Trout beats Cotto, and then Trout beats Canelo in May. Imagine if Chavez Jr knocks out Martinez, imagine if Marquez beats Pacquiao.

After hypothetically beating Guerrero in 2013, that leaves Floyd with Trout[boring, not a fight I would be mad at Floyd for turning down], Chavez Jr[eliminated, Top Rank], and Marquez[who really wants to see a rematch?].

Obviously, from the scenario I said and the fighters I picked, Marquez is the most likely fighter that Floyd picks because of his name and because of the win he'd be coming off of.

If this was the case, would you really be mad at him for only fighting Guerrero in 2013? You could make a case for Trout, he'd be coming off Delvin, Cotto, Canelo...but i'm sorry, I rather watch Floyd vs Lara.

Now hopefully Cotto defeats Trout next Saturday and Canelo defeats Cotto in May 2013, and we get Canelo-Mayweather for September 2013.
You think Floyd will ever fight again at 154?
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If Floyd was fighting Guerrero on regular HBO, I would say great, good for him. Like when De La Hoya fought Steve Forbes for what he thought was a tune up for a Mayweather rematch.
But to put this garbage on PPV and ask fans to pay 60 bucks or more is just ridiculous.
Agreed. Time to bust out the streams, not paying $70 for this if it happens.
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