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Old 11-26-2012, 10:25 AM
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What's funny is the US still has the best fighters in the world.

You have to put one country up against an entire region on a continent to even make it competitive.
Only in boxing would you have German people clumping each other with Polish people Instead of rooting for your own countrymen, they root for other nations for the sake of "Eastern Europe". That's pathetic.

Does a British citizen root for a fighter from Kazhakstan? Other than being from the same continent, what do you share in common? You don't speak the same, you don't think the same, you don't go through life with the same ambitions. You virtually have nothing in common. It would be the same as an American being proud of a person from Hondurus, simply because they are from North America. If anything it shows that Europeans often have an inferiority complex.
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Old 11-26-2012, 10:31 AM
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Chad Dawson, Tavoris Cloud, Andre Ward, Andre Dirrell, Peter Quillin, Austin Trout, James Kirkland, Floyd Mayweather, Victor Ortiz, Andre Berto, Devon Alexander, Paulie Malignaggi, Robert Guerrero, Keith Thurman, Timothy Bradley, Danny Garcia, Lamont Peterson, Mike Alvarado, Brandon Rios, Zab Judah, Adrien Broner, Diego Magdaleno, Mikey Garcia, Gary Russell Jr, etc.

Name another country that has a list over fighters as strong as those.
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Old 11-26-2012, 10:35 AM
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Only in boxing would you have German people clumping each other with Polish people Instead of rooting for your own countrymen, they root for other nations for the sake of "Eastern Europe". That's pathetic.

Does a British citizen root for a fighter from Kazhakstan? Other than being from the same continent, what do you share in common? You don't speak the same, you don't think the same, you don't go through life with the same ambitions. You virtually have nothing in common. It would be the same as an American being proud of a person from Hondurus, simply because they are from North America. If anything it shows that Europeans often have an inferiority complex.
The funny thing is that it's often said that Americans bash Europeans and think we're better than everyone else, but often at times it's Europeans bashing Americans, specifically British or when you go over there....French people. I don't know why, if it wasn't for the dumb ass cowboys from the US, they'd be speaking German right now. Credit can also go to Russia for that too.
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Old 11-26-2012, 10:47 AM
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The same Frank Warren who thought chisora was a world level fighter
Look at the hype now with Price and Fury
Every nation hypes up their own but at least the yanks have the two best fighters on the planet right now in Mayweather and Ward
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:43 AM
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Only in boxing would you have German people clumping each other with Polish people Instead of rooting for your own countrymen, they root for other nations for the sake of "Eastern Europe". That's pathetic.

Does a British citizen root for a fighter from Kazhakstan? Other than being from the same continent, what do you share in common? You don't speak the same, you don't think the same, you don't go through life with the same ambitions. You virtually have nothing in common. It would be the same as an American being proud of a person from Hondurus, simply because they are from North America. If anything it shows that Europeans often have an inferiority complex.
I don't understand that comment about Germany. Are you talking about their fans in general? Yes i too think it's unfortunate but they wouldn't be rooting for fighters "for the sake of Eastern Europe" as Germans aren't Eastern European. It's probably just because they don't have many fighters. Does America have a shortage of Atlas's?

As for Eastern Europe you seem to be unaware of the fact that the vast majority of countries in Eastern Europe are Slavic, the same ethnicity, the same family of languages, similar cultures, shared history etc so it makes a great deal of sense. As for Kazakhstan Jirov is Russian, Golovkin's family is Russian and there is also shared history, shared sport, etc with Kazakhstan as a country in general.

Your inability to grasp this is due to your ignorance, not any validity in the uninformed assertion you just put forth.

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Old 11-26-2012, 12:02 PM
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What's funny is the US still has the best fighters in the world.

You have to put one country up against an entire region on a continent to even make it competitive.
It just happens to be that the US has a much bigger pool of fighters to choose from. Break down into separate states and the situation would be the same as Europe, with of course some exceptions. In terms of quality, who knows what the outcome would have been had the US been in different circumstances. All I know is that many boxers now in the US are overhyped and protected, and quality isn't a great issue for those boxers. Happens everywhere though, just the US has more money to throw around to do that sort of thing.
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:04 PM
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Outside HW no, Warrens full of ****, much better level of competition over the pond.
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:04 PM
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I don't understand that comment about Germany. Are you talking about their fans in general? Yes i too think it's unfortunate but they wouldn't be rooting for fighters "for the sake of Eastern Europe" as Germans aren't Eastern European. It's probably just because they don't have many fighters. Does America have a shortage of Atlas's?

As for Eastern Europe you seem to be unaware of the fact that the vast majority of countries in Eastern Europe are Slavic, the same ethnicity, the same family of languages, similar cultures, shared history etc so it makes a great deal of sense. As for Kazakhstan Jirov is Russian, Golovkin's family is Russian and there is also shared history, shared sport, etc with Kazakhstan as a country in general.

Your inability to grasp this is due to your ignorance, not any validity in the uninformed assertion you just put forth.
Damn! Somebody give green K to this guy.
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:07 PM
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This is how it works.

Eastern Europeans/Europeans: dominate the heavier weights
Mexicans/Latin America: dominate the smaller weights.
Yanks: [B]dominate HBO and broadcast their hypejobs like Seth Mitchell and James Kirkland that end up being bums.[/b] While passing up guys like GGG, Klitschkos, Tyson Marquez etc

Why did you leave out Chris Arreola for the bold underlined?

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Old 11-26-2012, 12:07 PM
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Only in boxing would you have German people clumping each other with Polish people Instead of rooting for your own countrymen, they root for other nations for the sake of "Eastern Europe". That's pathetic.

Does a British citizen root for a fighter from Kazhakstan? Other than being from the same continent, what do you share in common? You don't speak the same, you don't think the same, you don't go through life with the same ambitions. You virtually have nothing in common. It would be the same as an American being proud of a person from Hondurus, simply because they are from North America. If anything it shows that Europeans often have an inferiority complex.
Well your examples are finely chosen. Most people don't recognise Kazakhstan as part of Europe for the reasons you described there. Most people in Europe see as an Asian country, its only link to Europe being its a former Soviet state. Yet the culture between Britain, France, Germany, Italy, Austria etc, even more eastern states like Hungary, there is a shared European culture. Britain is the furthest example given it shares a lot of American culture, but there is a European culture here.

As for the US/Honduras thing, ofc not. Yet people from Canada like US fighters, and some from the US like Canadian fighters. The US is big and separate enough to define its own culture, whereas European states are grouped together and most have a shared history.

Comparing them both doesn't make for great argument. I see myself as British and European. You don't see yourself as North American neccessarily.
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