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Old 11-25-2012, 12:56 PM
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Cotto drained is nothing more than a myth/excuse. Here is how Cotto tipped the scales in his previous fights before Pac.
04-12-2008 vs Alfonso Gomez @146 1/2
07-26-2008 vs Antonio Margarito @147
02-21-2009 vs Michael Jennings @147
06-13-2009 vs Joshua Clottey @146
11-14-2009 vs Manny Pacquiao @145

Considering the date and weight that Cotto tipped the scales during weigh in, the possibility that 1 lb will drain a him is purely BS.

And with regards to the DLH bout, Pac tipped the scales @142 in that 147 bout.
You...have never cut weight have you? Cotto is a professional, and comes to the ring in shape. He had never come in lighter than 146, and that 146 is when he is in shape and cut/drained. When you are in shape and drained down, and still have to lose extra weight, where do you think that extra pound has to come from? With that said, cotto going down to 145 was too bad and he made it in good shape. His porr gameplanning/training/trainer were bigger issues. But....


The fact remains, i wouldnt call it unfair, but it was a b1tch move by pacquiao. He had previously fought de la hoya at 147, it wasnt anything new on his body. The inescapable fact remains, he demanded the catchweight simply because he didnt want to face cotto at full strength. This fact remains today.
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Old 11-25-2012, 01:11 PM
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dela hoya fight had no catch weight, it was held at the full 147 ww limit.

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Old 11-25-2012, 01:21 PM
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Cotto drained is nothing more than a myth/excuse. Here is how Cotto tipped the scales in his previous fights before Pac.
04-12-2008 vs Alfonso Gomez @146 1/2
07-26-2008 vs Antonio Margarito @147
02-21-2009 vs Michael Jennings @147
06-13-2009 vs Joshua Clottey @146
11-14-2009 vs Manny Pacquiao @145

Considering the date and weight that Cotto tipped the scales during weigh in, the possibility that 1 lb will drain a him is purely BS.

And with regards to the DLH bout, Pac tipped the scales @145 in that 147 bout.
All these words and research for naught. Cotto was drained end of story, don't be fooled by the fraud. If he had not been having weight trouble PEDquiao would fight him at 147 like he fought Oscar and Clottey instead of the 145
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Old 11-25-2012, 01:46 PM
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only trolls who know nothing about the sport say cotto was drained

the only arguement they have to fall on is "well, it was a catchweight, so he must've been drained"

cotto showed no signs of being drained, in the lead up to the fight, like a day or so before the fight cotto is going on about how "the weight was no issue, i feel faster than ever, i think my speed will shock pacquiao etc"

after the fight, "the weight was not an issue"

3 years later just before fighting floyd "yea, i had trouble making weight, and margarito clearly had loaded gloves etc"

funny that cotto was the one that suggested 145 too, because he could make that easy he said
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Old 11-25-2012, 01:50 PM
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First of all 145 vs Cotto was Cotto own idea. Cotto came out first and said that is Pac wanted some he can come and get it at 145 and no less.

Margarito situation is funny. Had Pac fought him at 147 then it would have been all cool but since Pac fought him at 150 peps are saying he got drained .

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Old 11-25-2012, 07:25 PM
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All of them obviously. And de la Hoya was at 147 which is not a catch weight friend.

Cotto catch weight was a disgrace and goes to show PACfraud thinks he's bigger than boxing. He forced Cotto to come down and came fo the ring last even though Cotto was champion. Cotto was having trouble with 147 that's why the catch weight.

Margarito fight was shameful altogether and the catch weight made worse if that's possible. That bum had trouble with 147 two years before the fight then got punished with Cotto and annihilated with Mosley then suspended for more than a year in which he was 190 pounds when off. He also was no longer conditioned as much to getting punched which is why his face broke.

Marquez catch weight was the most deplorable. Pacquiao and his crazed lunatic fans say he was at 147 but could still easily do 130 because he had to eat 10,000 calories an hour just to be 147. They hate Floyd for bringing Marquez up to 144 but forgive PACfraud for doing the same even though they say he would have no problem fighting him at 140 and PACfraud still got his face boxed.

Conclusion manny success is all smoke and mirrors. Stay far away from Floyd, a career high payday isn't worth the humiliation he will endure.
Do you realize Floyd is more evil when it comes fighting a smaller men? Floyd is a 147 fighter back then when he forced Hatton to fight him at 147. The same thing what happened to 135 Marquez fight, it just much worst because of the weight cheating.
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:31 PM
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Oscar's an idiot cuz he picked the weight.

Cotto had made 146 vs. Clottey previously and only had to lose 1 pound vs. Pac.

JMM has fought at that CW before vs. Fraud and Pac weighed 143 while he weighed 142.

So the only one hurt was Tony who had fought Garcia at 154 and fought Pac at a 150 CW.
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First of all 145 vs Cotto was Cotto own idea. Cotto came out first and said that is Pac wanted some he can come and get it at 145 and no less.

Margarito situation is funny. Had Pac fought him at 147 then it would have been all cool but since Pac fought him at 150 peps are saying he got drained .
Spoken in a heavy Filipino accent i see. And no, cotto didnt come out first and say 145. Manny came out first and said 143, and they negotiated to 145. Cotto accepted, on the condition that his belt wouldnt be on the line, which was later forced to be on the line. Facts....how do they work.

One can argue if the pound made a difference or not, ultimatepy the greater issue at play is it was still a b1tch move on mannys part, as clearly he didnt, and still doesnt, want to face miguel at miguels natural/strongest weight. Hes scurred, demands catchweights in the hopes of taking something out of cotto. No other reason.
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:49 PM
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Spoken in a heavy Filipino accent i see. And no, cotto didnt come out first and say 145. Manny came out first and said 143, and they negotiated to 145. Cotto accepted, on the condition that his belt wouldnt be on the line, which was later forced to be on the line. Facts....how do they work.

One can argue if the pound made a difference or not, ultimatepy the greater issue at play is it was still a b1tch move on mannys part, as clearly he didnt, and still doesnt, want to face miguel at miguels natural/strongest weight. Hes scurred, demands catchweights in the hopes of taking something out of cotto. No other reason.
Quoted simply because it needed to be said again. The fact is that if 2 pounds didn't make a difference then why ask for a CW in the first place?
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I don't find any of them to be "unfair" but catch weights in general are meh. But really I don't see a guy like him fighting effectively at a weight as high as 154 considering where he started at. Plus, didn't Cotto ask for a catch weight himself for his very next fight?
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