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Old 11-22-2012, 08:06 AM
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Typical response. I don't even hate froch. I hate idiots that try to say froch is in some way an atg. Back to reality...
I hate idiots who dismiss boxers just because they don't look 'technically sound'. I judge a boxer off his results, dunno about you....
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Old 11-22-2012, 08:07 AM
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No chance. Carl froch is technically poor to say the least. Some people ask stupid questions.
Technical skills have absolutely nothing to do with getting into the HOF or an ATG list. Sheer will, toughness, longevity and the ability to apply those skills at a top level have gotten many peeps in the ATG list.
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Old 11-22-2012, 08:08 AM
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Typical response. I don't even hate froch. I hate idiots that try to say froch is in some way an atg. Back to reality...
if he beats Ward & Kessler on top of the resume he already has...he's definitely in the running to be call an atg.

so yes, haters gonna hate.
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Old 11-22-2012, 08:12 AM
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I hate idiots who dismiss boxers just because they don't look 'technically sound'. I judge a boxer off his results, dunno about you....
Go through his results, they are not as great as people make out. Lost his biggest fight, hasn't beaten any hall of fame fighters, who is his best win? He couldn't even beat dirrell. He gets credit for being willing to fight the best. That's it.
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Old 11-22-2012, 08:12 AM
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Looking at some of the rubbish that has made it's way into the HOF in recent years I say Froch is already deserved of his place.

Being an ATG is a different question altogether. If he beats Kessler or Ward, managed to hold on the belt and defend against quality opposition and probably win a title at 175 then there is no reason he shouldn't be an ATG.
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Old 11-22-2012, 08:14 AM
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if he beats Ward & Kessler on top of the resume he already has...he's definitely in the running to be call an atg.

so yes, haters gonna hate.
No way, delusional if you think he can be called an atg. What's next? You gonna put Hatton in if he beat Mayweather and PAC? No chance!
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Old 11-22-2012, 08:15 AM
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Old 11-22-2012, 08:20 AM
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Go through his results, they are not as great as people make out. Lost his biggest fight, hasn't beaten any hall of fame fighters, who is his best win? He couldn't even beat dirrell. He gets credit for being willing to fight the best. That's it.
Oi Frank, stop posting under an alias.
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Old 11-22-2012, 08:25 AM
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Oi Frank, stop posting under an alias.
hahaha. it is what it is.

people over rate froch just because he will fight anybody anywhere, and then ignore what he has actually done!
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Old 11-22-2012, 09:20 AM
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hahaha. it is what it is.

people over rate froch just because he will fight anybody anywhere, and then ignore what he has actually done!
Haha it's all opinions mate. I had Froch beating Kessler by a round, and i also had him as the close winner against Dirrell. There's no way Dirrell did enough that night to walk away with Froch's belt.

The only guy who has clearly outclassed him was Ward, who IMO is the future, if not already p4p #1.
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