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Old 11-19-2012, 07:40 PM
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Not as bad as Pac's that's for damned sure.
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:18 PM
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The U.S. Anti-Doping Agency took issue with assertions made by Victor Conte in a May 9 NYFightBlog post ("Peterson-Khan II off; Victor Conte told us so").

Conte was introduced to the sports world when his BALCO empire was busted in 2004. He was indicted for distributing steroids and had to serve four months in prison in 2005 and 2006. The California resident, who now runs a nutritional supplement company, has of late been vocal about what he says is the rampant use and abuse of PEDs in the sports world. He has been working with several boxers, including ex-welterweight champion Andre Berto and current super bantamweight champion Nonito Donaire, advising them on training methods and supplement use.

After junior welterweight champion Lamont Peterson (30-1; age 28; from D.C.) tested positive for a banned substance on Tuesday, NYFightBlog checked in with Conte, the man who helped create a number of designer performance enhancers and admitted he crafted PED intake plans for some of the world's foremost athletes.

Fight fans were amped to see if Peterson could perform as well on May 19 as he did on Dec. 10, when he beat WBA and IBF champion Amir Khan via split decision. We asked for Conte's take on the positive test, and the ramifications when the disappointing news hit the wires.

Conte, not one to shrink into the background following his stint of ignominy, weighed in.

In the May 9 post, he applauded the outfit that oversaw the Peterson-Khan tests, VADA (Voluntary Anti-Doping Association), and opined that it was to VADA's credit that Peterson was flagged for what turned out to be usage of synthetic testosterone. Conte took heavy shots at the testing giant USADA (U.S. Anti-Doping Agency), the national anti-doping organization for the U.S. Olympic team, named by Congress the official anti-doping agency for Olympic, Pan American and Paralympic sport in the U.S.

Specifically, Conte said the USADA might not have caught Peterson because, Conte maintained, it does not use the CIR (carbon isotope ratio) test on every sample.

"If USADA were doing the testing, he said, the CIR test would only have been done if a red flag was raised from their testosterone-to-epitestosterone test, or T/E ratio, test," the original post read. "Under USADA rules, if the T/E level breaches a 4-1 ratio, a CIR is then administered."((

USADA reached out to NYFightBlog to dispute the Conte claims about when it uses the CIR test. I should have reached out to USADA earlier. ((USADA furnished a statement to this writer disputing much of what Conte said in the blog post.

"CIR is a regular part of the USADA testing program for all athletes under USADA's jurisdiction, as well as a routine part of the anti-doping programs conducted by USADA in the sport of professional boxing," USADA said. "It is completely inaccurate to say that CIR testing would only be done if a T/E ratio is 4-1."


Conte told NYFightBlog that VADA flagging the Peterson specimen will result in the embrace of the CIR test by testing entities, and the jettisoning of the T/E ratio test, which he disputed as a loophole you can fit a Mack truck through.

USADA countered that CIR has, in fact, been embraced in the testing community:

"CIR has been used by anti-doping organizations internationally since the early 2000s and there have been many athletes sanctioned by USADA and other national anti-doping organizations around the world as the result of CIR testing. CIR is an important tool in our toolbox and we use it strategically and effectively."

Conte, in the May 9 post, didn't hide his take that he thinks VADA's screen are superior to USADA's. USADA reached out to NYFightBlog to rebut what it says are erroneous assertions by Conte, and assure sports fans that their protocol and test plans are top grade.

"USADA also collects longitudinal data that allows us to monitor any fluctuations in an athlete's own biological parameters and closely examine any changes or indicators," USADA said. "(USADA) can also confirm that for the (May 5) Mayweather vs. Cotto fight, all of the samples collected from both fighters underwent CIR testing."

The fallout from the Peterson positive, shocking to the fight game community since we heard that he'd been the one to push hard for stringent testing, continues to ripple. Khan (26-2; age 25; living in England) issued a statement after word dropped that the fight was scrapped.

"No one was more shocked and upset by the cancellation of next week's fight than me," he said. "I had been training hard for almost eight weeks and was ready to put on a dazzling performance and win my belts back. I know many of you purchased tickets for the fight and had planned to make the trip to Las Vegas next weekend. For any inconvenience or hardship this cancellation has caused, I am truly sorry."

Team Peterson also put out a statement: "We still stand behind the fact that he did nothing wrong and he was more than ready to go through with the May 19 fight."

They insist that Peterson had extremely low levels of testosterone in his system, and a physician prescribed testosterone supplements in November 2011, before his fight with Khan.

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What I'm getting out of this is article and the OP is Montoya/Conte accused Mayweather/USADA of not using the proper testing protocol (CIR).

It looks like USADA proved their theory incorrect in this article.

Based on some posters from DHB, after USADA denounced Conte/Montoya's rumors of incorrect testing protocol and unannounced failed tests, Montoya went and deleted some of his articles from DHB and the rest is history.
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:24 PM
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The main source of the rumours were Gabe Montoya obviously, as he was posting at DHB and he was posting with a dude diamondsmuggler that it was FACT that Floyd was not doing CIR testing, on top of that, he also claimed Foyd set the cutoff dates for blood testing and that he did not do longtitudinal testing.

ALL FALSE.

USADA published a letter referencing the falsities, and Gabe still ignored it even though it was directly addressing conversations he and Victor Conte had been having.

Gabe also erased SEVERAL posts bad mouthing Floyd and the USADA in order to cover his tracks once the letter was published, I know because my posts were deleted as well (They were exchanges between he and I in the HGH thread concerning the tests)
Gary Montoya is also a bellboy at a L.A. hotel. Floyd stiffed him on a tip once and the rest is history. This Internet boxing journalist is also a boxer publicist. Always examine the source.
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:31 PM
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What I'm getting out of this is article and the OP is Montoya/Conte accused Mayweather/USADA of not using the proper testing protocol (CIR).

It looks like USADA proved their theory incorrect in this article.

Based on some posters from DHB, after USADA denounced Conte/Montoya's rumors of incorrect testing protocol and unannounced failed tests, Montoya went and deleted some of his articles from DHB and the rest is history.
Here is Gabe AKA "ender" agreeing with a pac turd troll about how Floyd doesn't use CIR on his tests (from doghouse)

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whether floyd deserves credit for the rise in steroid testing is purely subjective and ultimately meaningless.
the real question is why floyd would leave out CIR testing from his 'mayweather test'. when you combine this with the fact his father figure, don hale, runs testosterone clinics it becomes legitimately suspicious.

floyd needs to be called out on this and investigated.
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:41 PM
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Thomas Hauser is pretty legit. Let's see how GBP, Mayweather and USADA responds. If they don't respond with a legal suit then we can surmise, Hauser has it right.
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:45 PM
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Hauser has what right, exactly? This isn't anything those who've been keeping up don't already know.

so if GBP doesn't sue, they are guilty? Pac sued instead of fighting and look what that did to his rep.
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:47 PM
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Truth reveals that Floyd tested positive 3 times and was involved in a huge cover up by GBP.

Glad Montoya and Thomas Hauser exposed him.
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:53 PM
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Truth reveals that Floyd tested positive 3 times and was involved in a huge cover up by GBP.

Glad Montoya and Thomas Hauser exposed him.
No, they have no idea what's happening, just pumping out rumours like how Floyd was going to fight Spadafora and Matt Hatton for his comeback
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:54 PM
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Can't believe Floyd was a drug cheat all along. Damn this will hurt his legacy.
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:39 PM
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Bumppppity!
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