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Old 11-24-2012, 08:50 PM
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The article has a ton of info about USADA that is fact and I'd expect boxing journalists to ask Tygart and USADA about it, especially now that it's been documented that they've been asked about their actions by Hauser, and failed to respond. I'd expect Schaefer, Haymon and Floyd to stonewall on this.
Tygart has apparently been stonewalling a number of journalists on this matter for a while.

My primary concern would be the capacity of the current arrangements to facilitate TRT without the public ever hearing about it.
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Old 11-24-2012, 09:13 PM
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PAC refused to do testing the way Floyd wanted it done. His excuses were nonsense. Floyd wouldn't agree to use anything other than USADA, which is nonsense. Screw both of them
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Old 11-24-2012, 09:24 PM
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Tygart has apparently been stonewalling a number of journalists on this matter for a while.

My primary concern would be the capacity of the current arrangements to facilitate TRT without the public ever hearing about it.
If Tygart wants the publicity from Lance, he has to be willing to answer legit questions about his own crew.

Agreed on the second point
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Old 11-25-2012, 12:51 AM
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PAC refused to do testing the way Floyd wanted it done. His excuses were nonsense. Floyd wouldn't agree to use anything other than USADA, which is nonsense. Screw both of them
What i know, before Manny went on national tv to declare that he is willing to do OSDT fully random even up to the day of the fight.. Arum were already going on public, stressing that they will do full OSDT but only under a more neutral organization, and he went as far as mentioning WADA to do the job instead of USADA.. I guess they knew something's not right already even before this scandal...

http://www.badlefthook.com/2011/7/11...-wada-bob-arum

http://sportales.com/boxing/pacquiao...usada-doctors/

http://www.mmalinker.com/forum/blood...da-t90495.html

http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-bo...ayweather-news
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Old 11-25-2012, 12:59 AM
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So it looks like that Floyd is like that Right-Wing Republican who is fighting against Gay Rights legislation only to be found out that he was a closet Gay himself. I'm sorry, bad analogy? Perhaps covering two things at once.

But you get the point.
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Old 11-25-2012, 01:02 AM
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lol, and then people bring up defense for fighters with longevity...as if defense is this newly found means of preserving one's youth

Hopkins is still a top fighter and is pushing 50, come on
Well technically he is not a top fighter. The only thing about Hopkins is that he is still very much fit, which can be explained when someone works out all the time. His abs are almost nonexistent at this point. His offense is shot to sh1t and nothing like it was in the early to mid 2000's.

The only thing keeping him afloat is his conservative methods of punching and holding. That and the fact that he stays in shape to even do that at his age.
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Old 11-25-2012, 03:22 AM
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So Floyd's drug testing demands on Pacquaio were all part of an elaborate ploy to ensure he'd fight a PED-less Pac while being able to use PEDs himself? Haha, hilarious. If there is even the slightest bit of truth to that it would make this the ultimate case of an athlete looking to stack the deck in their favor against another. The mayweather name could become synonymous with sucker punching and cheating, wouldn't that be a tragedy? Lol
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:45 PM
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I thought it was pretty fishy when Berto didn't do the VADA testing that busted him in the first place.
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:44 PM
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BS No source....
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Old 11-25-2012, 11:59 PM
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Just like Floyd when accused Pacquiao is a PED user. No evidence and no source.
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