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Old 11-15-2012, 02:50 PM
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Sadly I don't think broner will be truly tested until he moves to 140. Who's the best fighter at 135 after demacro? Richard Abril??
I think Abril would test him, and I think Broner would have to show a lot to look good against Abril but that would be more of a test of Broner's offensive skills (and ability to keep a cool head) than his defensive ones.
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Old 11-15-2012, 02:53 PM
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two insanely overrated fighters though. I never bought into the linares hype. Who'd he beat again? Rocky Juarez, is that his best win?
I respect what you're saying... I actually have an AVI bet with Maniac that Broner does win... so Im not delussional. I'm just not sold on Broner, especially his defense, which WILL be pivotal in beating Demarco, because Demarco WILL be punching back, moreso in the later rounds.

I dont see this fight as a Pac-Margarito.

Broner doesnt have that kind of output, I expect Broner to win the first few rounds due to Demarco adjusting to his speed... at around round 5 I think Demarco turns up the pressure a bit.

What I will be watching for.. is when Broner "confidentally" goes to the ropes to show off his Floyd philly shell impersonation, which IMO he isnt actually that good at.

I think those punches will land... we may have a fight if so.
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Old 11-15-2012, 02:58 PM
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I think he works hard in the gym... but I dont think he works on Floyds level.

I hate to keep comparing him to Floyd, but Broner insists on it, so lets have at it.

I dont see Broner doing the 3am road work, the midnight mitt sessions, the off season sparring just to spar.

I see Broner as someone arrogant because of his natural talent and his record... I see Floyd as someone arrogant because of the work he's put in to be what he is.

Floyds personality switched gears after ODLH.. he finally got the big boy money and the big boy fame, not too mention broke Income records with the fight. Broners already at that personality level, without doing anything.

Not that his personality has to do with his in ring ability, but it does to a certain extent, because it makes him believe his own hype.
I completely agree, personality part is important and it gets over looked a lot.

You are what your preparation is, and if a guy thinks he is awesome generally his preparation will suffer, generally the only exception is if a guy has already built up the work ethic over a long time so he doesn't know anything different.

That is kind of a long term question though and t could go either way with Broner but there are a lot more Amir Khan's than Floyd Mayweather's. I would hope since he idolizes Floyd so much he understands that side of his success but he may not get it.
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Old 11-15-2012, 02:58 PM
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I see the emulation... but how effective is he really with it.

It's one thing to emulate, act like... and it's another to have complete anticipation and reading comprehension like Floyd.

I see Broner standing in the stance, putting his gloves where they "should go"... but when the punches come flying in... he doesn't look comfortable, and he doesn't look like he knows exactly where and how to move with the punches.

He DOES have defense, but I think he tries to make it look more effective than it may actually be.

Demarcos win over Jorge really opened my eyes to, if nothing else, his pure determination and grit... that even though he can be getting his ears boxed off.. he's not going to stop coming, or even more importantly... his ability to punch when the opponent punches, which can really throw off a slick fighter.

What are your thoughts?
Yup this is true, his defense stance looks nice and works against most but if you press him and move em back he eats alot more then he blocks.

Case and point Broner vs Rodriguez, Rodriguez barley a D level fighter and he was able to land on Broner push em on the ropes and even though smaller he was able to tag broner on that rope.

I want to see how he deals with that lead left that demarco will be throwing.

And Demarco as a boxer puncher and tough as nails will defiantly being trying to win and will not be intimated by broner power. So its a intresting match let the best man win.

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Old 11-15-2012, 03:00 PM
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People probably know now i am not a broner fan, but his defense seems pretty solid. Cant argue with what i see.

He can be hit though. Not on floyd's level by any means, but his defense will only get better.
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Better than most but not close to Floyd. A good jab can give Broner problems but don't get too comfortable with it. If Broner doesn't respect your power he will go through your jab to get inside like he did with Escobedo. Broner knew Escobedo couldn't hurt him so he started walking him down.

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Old 11-15-2012, 03:02 PM
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when it comes to discussion Adrien Broner you never got a fair or real assessment especially on this forum

Broner is still a very young fighter, not even close to being in his prime as a fighter nor is he a finished product, he has had some success very early in his career but he is still improving as a fighter...the more he fights the better he is getting from what I have seen...I remember when Broner use to sit back and just wait to try and land that Right Hook (which is why he struggled against Ponce De Leon IMO), he was almost STRICTLY A ONE HAND COUNTER PUNCHER...but now he is coming forward, walking fighters down, going to the body and breaking his opponents down

These are things people don't see and DON'T WANT TO SEE because like WOMEN they put their personal feelings first and can't assess a fighter based purely on what he is doing in the ring...so you becoming blind to all the things he does well in the ring to focus and point out the negatives

As for Broner Defense, I think he does the Shoulder Roll and uses the Philly/Crab/Gans (what ever the hell you want to call it) Shell pretty good...sure he gets hit, hell Mayweather the master of that style of Defense still gets hits, nobody ever said it cannot be penetrated but the Stance to go with the Quickness and Reflexes and you gotta have great head movement and be able to read punches that are coming...that can make the Defense very Difficult to penetrate if it is DONE CORRECTLY!
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:05 PM
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So far in this thread it's been a pretty fair and balanced assessment and nobody is **** talking.
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So far in this thread it's been a pretty fair and balanced assessment and nobody is **** talking.
yeah this thread is getting me pumped for the fight 0nly 2 days away!!!!
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comparing him to floyd isnt fair, hes always gonna come up short when you do no matter which comparison you make.

his defense may be overrated, broner looked about as good as he could at the level hes been fighting at. but his defense along with everything else will have a new test to pass as he steps up his competition.

also i dont think demarco is getting enough props in this thread. he might not look great in any one area, but hes one of those tough, durable fighters whos always in great shape and very well rounded.

guys like that are tough for any fighter, he might not have any outstanding strenghts but he has no outstanding weaknesses either and he knows how to get the job done even if it doesnt look pretty.
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