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Old 11-15-2012, 01:34 PM
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That said, I think Broner is much better than people give him credit for because they hate his **** talking.
That's partly it, but it's also because he's regarded as having had very favourable match-ups due to his marketability, and because when he met his first big name opponent he lost.

He is good, but it's like the man says, how good is he really?
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Old 11-15-2012, 01:37 PM
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Overrated IMO similar looking to Floyds but no where near as skilled as his.
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I agree with your points however I don't personally think Demarco is that good of a fighter. I think 135 is one of the weakest divisions in all of boxing and that's the only reason he's on top. Sure he beat Linares but who hasn't.
I actually think in that fight, Linares looked phenomenal, maybe one of his best performances even though he lost.

I mean he showed DeMarco everything, Speed, accuracy, footwork, lateral and head movement, combination punching, mixing up punches, setting traps, ring generalship... I thought he looked GREAT... Demarco put on his best Margarito impersonation though it was just too much at the end.

One of my favorite fights actually.
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Old 11-15-2012, 01:43 PM
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Another thing.

Great defense is a very hard thing to attain in boxing, and it is something that has to be constantly worked on and sharpened or it will become dull.

Floyd is what he is because of the work he puts in the gym, I am sure Broner works hard and has worked hard to get where he is but does he have that fire to keep working hard long term even after he makes it.

So even if he is pretty good defensively now will he continue to be that way is an open question.
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Old 11-15-2012, 01:44 PM
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That's partly it, but it's also because he's regarded as having had very favourable match-ups due to his marketability, and because when he met his first big name opponent he lost.

He is good, but it's like the man says, how good is he really?
He didn't lose to Ponce. Respectfully, most of the people who think he lost to Ponce are the exact same people who complain the most about **** talking, hair brushing etc., which don't factor in to scoring a fight but do influence posters opinions.

EVERY heavily promoted fighter that gets on TV alot has favorable matchups, thats what match makers do, so lets not act like Broner is somehow different than manny, odh, floyd, tyson, or any other fighter HBO decides it wants to market.

I just hope at some point we just evaluate Broner's in ring ability based on his in ring performance during the fight, and not because anyone CAN get it or he fakes marriage proposals.
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two insanely overrated fighters though. I never bought into the linares hype. Who'd he beat again? Rocky Juarez, is that his best win?

But we put that aside. Just watching Demacro...he doesn't do anything great. He's not fast, doesn't have a lot of power, he's sloppy with his punches. What's great about him? Nothing. He can do certain things good, but nothing great. Showed great heart & determination against Linares, yes, but that can only take you so far. Against a more skilled fighter like broner, no contest.

Sadly I don't think broner will be truly tested until he moves to 140. Who's the best fighter at 135 after demacro? Richard Abril??
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His defense is only good as the opposition he faces. If the caliper of opponents are not all that. so his defense.....not either
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Floyd is what he is because of the work he puts in the gym, I am sure Broner works hard and has worked hard to get where he is but does he have that fire to keep working hard long term even after he makes it.
I think he works hard in the gym... but I dont think he works on Floyds level.

I hate to keep comparing him to Floyd, but Broner insists on it, so lets have at it.

I dont see Broner doing the 3am road work, the midnight mitt sessions, the off season sparring just to spar.

I see Broner as someone arrogant because of his natural talent and his record... I see Floyd as someone arrogant because of the work he's put in to be what he is.

Floyds personality switched gears after ODLH.. he finally got the big boy money and the big boy fame, not too mention broke Income records with the fight. Broners already at that personality level, without doing anything.

Not that his personality has to do with his in ring ability, but it does to a certain extent, because it makes him believe his own hype.

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I think he works hard in the gym... but I dont think he works on Floyds level.

I hate to keep comparing him to Floyd, but Broner insists on it, so lets have at it.

I dont see Broner doing the 3am road work, the midnight mitt sessions, the off season sparring just to spar.

I see Broner as someone arrogant because of his natural talent and his record... I see Floyd as someone arrogant because of the work he's put in to be what he is.

Floyds personality switched gears after ODLH.. he finally got the big boy money and the big boy fame, not too mention broke Income records with the fight. Broners already at that personality level, without doing anything.
Broner also isn't fueled to excel by the same demons that fuel floyd.
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He didn't lose to Ponce. Respectfully, most of the people who think he lost to Ponce are the exact same people who complain the most about **** talking, hair brushing etc., which don't factor in to scoring a fight but do influence posters opinions.
Respectfully, I think he did.
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