How good is Broners defense REALLY - Page 11

Fighting_Pride

it's not that good, he has't faced the right opposition yet, he's open everytime he throws the right, has a good left hook though, but defense is a bit over rated

Dudley

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Originally Posted by !! Shawn

The problem is that Broners stance is too wide too allow him the kind of mobility Floyd had.

Floyd was a much more defensively aware fighter than Broner is, was, or will ever be. He has all the makings of an Andre Berto, not a Floyd Mayweather, despite what he would like to believe.

I also don't find him particularly fast like a Mayweather, but he can crack pretty good.

I am torn by this fight. On one hand, I have never really seen much from DeMarco, but on the other hand, he didn't fall apart when he was getting a beating from Valero, or Linares. Both of whom I feel are much superior fighters than Broner.

Fighters with Broners style historically have horrrrible difficulty with southpaws, Floyd included. Broner already went life and death with a frankly, underskilled Ponce DeLeon, and he has also been roughed up and confused in several other fights early in his career, such as this one.

He just can't get out of the way of punches. His power has saved him several times, I don't know if it would be able to save him against DeMarco. Id be very surprised if he could stop him.

EVERY EDUCATED BOXING FAN KNOWS THIS! LOL We pretty much make the same point. When Broner leads it to pull out a counter opportunity. He has pop, but he mimics allot of stuff he hasn't quite sorted out yet the reason why it works or why he's doing it. Which is fine kinda... but all i'm saying this kid is a work in progress and should in no way be hyped up as much as he is. Broner vs Edwin Broner would never fight again, But Demarco lasted with that dude before having to retire. Broner vs Jorge Linares, Linares by wide ud. But Demarco stopped him. The experience leans towards Demarco tallent more towards Broner, but it's his use of his ability which is the problem, he's still sorting it out as when floyd at his age was much more educated knowledgeable about his craft.

Chopper417

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Originally Posted by Priest Andretti

I said he was scared shytless against Valero. And the kid was.

Broner would have been scared sh**less of Valero as well, and that's if he would have even had the balls to get in the ring with him. I think that Broner is one of the most athletically gifted fighters we have in the sport today, and I'll tell you right now he will have absolutely no issues with DeMarco. But that boy would not have been brushing his hair or making marriage proposals after a fight with Edwin Valero lol

intoccabile

The only emulation is the stance and rolling 'attempts'. Broner is far more offensive than little floyd and it has lots to do with the fact that his defense actually isn't that good. He gets touched a lot.

Chopper417

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Originally Posted by intoccabile

The only emulation is the stance and rolling 'attempts'. Broner is far more offensive than little floyd and it has lots to do with the fact that his defense actually isn't that good. He gets touched a lot.

When Floyd was at 130-135 that statement is completely and utterly retarded, please go back and watch film.

DempseyRollin

OK.what am I missing here? His defense is not that good in comparison to who? how many fighters broner's age evsn have legit defense? If ur comparing him to floyd, theres ur problem. With that said, the kid is defensively responsible for a fighter who fights with his style. I mean hes not a defense first fighter. So why the hell is everyone analyzing him like he is? U guys are getting carried away with the floyd comparisons. In his last few fights, broner has employed a come forward, tank like, walk them down style. He does this without taking many punches and under a tight guard, whether its high or shoulder roll. Hes not floyd. Hes not trying to avoid hits for picture perfect counters. Thats what he used to do. Hes changed. Hes essentially a perssure fighter with a good guard, power, who picks his shots wisely. He is not floyd mayweather. Never will be. But that doesnt mean his style doesnt have its merits.

Priest Andretti

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Originally Posted by DempseyRollin

OK.what am I missing here? His defense is not that good in comparison to who? how many fighters broner's age evsn have legit defense? If ur comparing him to floyd, theres ur problem. With that said, the kid is defensively responsible for a fighter who fights with his style. I mean hes not a defense first fighter. So why the hell is everyone analyzing him like he is? U guys are getting carried away with the floyd comparisons. In his last few fights, broner has employed a come forward, tank like, walk them down style. He does this without taking many punches and under a tight guard, whether its high or shoulder roll. Hes not floyd. Hes not trying to avoid hits for picture perfect counters. Thats what he used to do. Hes changed. Hes essentially a perssure fighter with a good guard, power, who picks his shots wisely. He is not floyd mayweather. Never will be. But that doesnt mean his style doesnt have its merits.

Best post of the thread.

Money Team.

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Originally Posted by !! Shawn

The problem is that Broners stance is too wide too allow him the kind of mobility Floyd had.

Floyd was a much more defensively aware fighter than Broner is, was, or will ever be. He has all the makings of an Andre Berto, not a Floyd Mayweather, despite what he would like to believe.

I also don't find him particularly fast like a Mayweather, but he can crack pretty good.

I am torn by this fight. On one hand, I have never really seen much from DeMarco, but on the other hand, he didn't fall apart when he was getting a beating from Valero, or Linares. Both of whom I feel are much superior fighters than Broner.

Fighters with Broners style historically have horrrrible difficulty with southpaws, Floyd included. Broner already went life and death with a frankly, underskilled Ponce DeLeon, and he has also been roughed up and confused in several other fights early in his career, such as this one.

He just can't get out of the way of punches. His power has saved him several times, I don't know if it would be able to save him against DeMarco. Id be very surprised if he could stop him.

he had 9 fights in this clip,thats the issue ya'll keep looking at older fights he has improved alot

TheHolyCross

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Originally Posted by Fighting_Pride

it's not that good, he has't faced the right opposition yet, he's open everytime he throws the right, has a good left hook though, but defense is a bit over rated

speaking of his right hand, broner seems to have a turd for a right hand dont he? it doesn't look like it has much power

*waits for broner-perez clip*

4Corners

He's an offense first fighter, with a tight guard who can walk people down, but also avoid some punches at the same time.

Floyd is the best defensive fighter in his era, and the best since Pernell Whitaker. Broner is responsible defensively, but he isn't as defensive minded as Floyd is a lot of times. The problem is comparing the two at all.

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4Corners Desert Eagle Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Colorado Posts: 11,154 Rep Power: 32 Points: 200,105,569,193.71 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 200,105,569,193.71 Donate	He's an offense first fighter, with a tight guard who can walk people down, but also avoid some punches at the same time. Floyd is the best defensive fighter in his era, and the best since Pernell Whitaker. Broner is responsible defensively, but he isn't as defensive minded as Floyd is a lot of times. The problem is comparing the two at all.