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Old 11-14-2012, 07:57 PM
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Once the old man croaks the game is going to be wide open.
Granted Dubeof is willing to work with GBP and not follow his stepdad's steps.

Looks like Fetta wasn't lying when he said Arum made these claims on the article.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:05 PM
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Because Arum is all about risk/reward~

There is a reward for Donaire winning this is the biggest fight out there for him and really the only way he could grow into something more than he is currently, so if Arum liked his chances he would willing take the risk.

Arum didn't get where he is being a fool and he knows the game probably as good as anyone, so how he feels about his guys and what they are capable of is very important.

If you can't get that there is no point in talking to you, on this matter.
bull****...donaire's chances of winning the fight has nothing to do with arum not wanting to work with gbp because clearly donaire has the edge. you just want to push your agenda and you don't care if you look stupid.

oh donaire is overrated because arum doesn't like his chances blah blah blah. and then what? not wanting to work with gbp is just his excuse?
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:09 PM
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Because Arum is all about risk/reward~

There is a reward for Donaire winning this is the biggest fight out there for him and really the only way he could grow into something more than he is currently, so if Arum liked his chances he would willingly take the risk.

Arum didn't get where he is being a fool and he knows the game probably as good as anyone, so how he feels about his guys and what they are capable of is very important.

If you can't get that there is no point in talking to you, on this matter.
Just to add to this, there's a video of Arum saying Donaire probably couldn't beat Rigondeaux, Salido or Gamboa. Guess who Donaire hasn't fought? Rigondeaux. Guess who Donaire won't be fighting? Salido or Gamboa.

We can also talk about Chavez Jr and Arum admitting to protecting him from Martinez. Promoters know their fighters, they know the game and they know what their fighters are capable of.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:10 PM
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bull****...donaire's chances of winning the fight has nothing to do with arum not wanting to work with gbp because clearly donaire has the edge. you just want to push your agenda and you don't care if you look stupid.

oh donaire is overrated because arum doesn't like his chances blah blah blah. and then what? not wanting to work with gbp is just his excuse?
When you understand how Arum operates come see me~

What matters more what your boss thinks of you, or what some random people think. I am glad you think Donaire kills Mares good for you, wish Arum had that same level of confidence because then we would see the fight.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:13 PM
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Just to add to this, there's a video of Arum saying Donaire probably couldn't beat Rigondeaux, Salido or Gamboa. Guess who Donaire hasn't fought? Rigondeaux. Guess who Donaire won't be fighting? Salido or Gamboa.

We can also talk about Chavez Jr and Arum admitting to protecting him from Martinez. Promoters know their fighters, they know the game and they know what their fighters are capable of.
I knock Arum as much as anyone, but he does things for a reason not randomly. Top Rank would not be what it is if not for Arum, it sucks sometimes because Arum interests don't always align with the fans but Arum always does what is best for Top Rank.

That is one of the keys when listening to what Arum has to say, you can't just listen to him and take him at face value but if you know how it benefits him he is easy enough to understand. He also says some interesting stuff when it benefits him, even the truth sometimes.

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Old 11-14-2012, 08:20 PM
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did anbody happen to notice the officating or judging in Mares vs Moreno???
not really the most objective ref or judges.

Arum is crooked but Golden Boy is no better.

I can't say I blame Arum for not trusting Golden Boy/Mares it's not like they have a good track record.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:35 PM
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in the 122 lbs div.... there is not other name that would make Donaire more money than Mares....Rigo wouldn't do much for a PPV type of fight. No disrispect to Rigo, but is the naked truth.
Rigo re-signed w/Top Stank to get a fight with Donaire. If that doesn't happen there will be a problem...

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Same thing with Floyd. Floyd is even more greedier than Bob Arum.
Why is Floyd even being mentioned? SMDH......
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:39 PM
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:14 PM
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Didn't Donaire say that if Golden boy loves the sport that they will make Donaire-Mares?! Well I wonder now what Donaire will say about Bob since Bob is the one killing this fight!!!(Ofcourse Donaire will not say anything cause he, like Pac, are hiding behind Bob).
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:27 PM
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I understand why folks hate arum but please look at Schaeffer's own track record..I can't stand the hypocrisy in here when it comes to top rank and GBP..same bullshhh practices under different names. Schaeffer is just as bad as Arum. Folks also forget that Schaeffer and Oscar have been angry at bob because he's offered their fighters more money to join him than they offered to retain them. If Schaeffer is so confident Mares will win give Arum what he wants you'll have all the belts in the division if your guy wins. BTW Rigo would get destroyed by donaire..he just got chin tapped in that last fight by a guy not known as a power hitter..if he was dancing like that trying to survive a round Donaire floors him for sure.
Man you sound like your supporting top rank? You must love Doniare or something give arum what he wants? What? So give a fighter you build who has a bright future to another company and you can't participate in the actual say. Do you think arum would do the same? Golden Boy is a much, much, much much better organization than top rank... Atleast they are willing to do cross promotions... But in the end that stable is gonna sink real real soon.
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