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Old 11-13-2012, 03:50 AM
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By JAKE MILLER / CBS NEWS/ November 12, 2012, 2:39 PM
States petition to secede from union
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They don't want to take their country back. They just want to leave it behind.

As the dust settles in the wake of President Obama's decisive reelection last Tuesday, the White House petition website has been flooded by a series of secession requests, with malcontents from New Jersey to North Dakota submitting petitions to allow their states to withdraw from the union.

Most of the petitions submitted thus far have come from solidly conservative states, including most of the Deep South and reliably separatist Texas. But a handful come from the heart of blue America - relatively progressive enclaves like Oregon and New York.

All told, petitions have been filed on behalf of 20 states: Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oregon, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Texas.

Many of the petitions invoke the Declaration of Independence's dramatic assertion that "Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government."

The petitions have been submitted through the White House's "We the People" website, which aims to give "all Americans a way to engage their government on the issues that matter to them." The White House promises that "If a petition meets the signature threshold, it will be reviewed by the Administration and we will issue a response." The threshold is 25,000 signatures in 30 days and, at the time of this article's publication, none of the secession petitions have reached the threshold (the Texas petition has received over 22,000 and needs to hit 25,000 by Dec. 9; Louisiana, with just under 15,000 signatures, needs to hit the threshold by Dec. 7.)

For some of the states represented, the secession requests are nothing novel: South Carolina, the state whose 1860 secession sparked the civil war, is hardly an unlikely locus of conservative angst in response to Mr. Obama's victory.

And in Texas, which still conceives of itself as a "republic," not a mere "state," politicians seem to make an almost annual show of flirting with secession, periodically dropping dark hints that Washington's chicanery may force the Lone Star state to flee the Union.

After repeatedly nodding at the possibility of secession in the last few years, Gov. Rick Perry, R-Tex., has more recently kept mum on the subject. But some local GOP officials in Texas have been happy to fill the void: Tom Head, a county judge from Lubbock predicted in August that Obama's reelection could lead to a second civil war. And the treasurer of the Hardin County Republican Party, Peter Morrison, asked in a post-election newsletter, "Why should Vermont and Texas live under the same government?" Morrison's newsletter requested an "amicable divorce" from the "maggots" who reelected President Obama, many of them voting on an "ethnic basis."

The Texas petition assails the federal government's "neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending," arguing that "it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it's citizens' standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government."

But some political officials in the states involved are not so eager to hop onboard the secession bandwagon, post-election angst or not. Morrison's boss, Hardin County GOP Chairman Kent Batman, explained, "People around here are asking why Texas is so different from the rest of the country, why we see things so differently...but I don't think a lot of people here are saying we ought to leave the Union."

Asked about Morrison's newsletter comments, the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports that Batman sighed and replied, "Wow...OK, well, I guess I need to start taking a look at his newsletters."

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Don't blame em.
Dont blame them?why? im sure a lot of people havent been happy with past presidents but to think you can secede from a country over it?come on really? people voted and voted who they wanted in office and because you lost you think you can change a country??dont like it then leave and come back in 4 years
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trivial horsesh*t.

nothing will ever come of it.

Its just fox news being fox news. inciting shameless delusional hate for obama.

everybody just move along.
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I seriously don't blame them.....

I've been a major advocate for California's secession for the longest time. We can be our own nation free from the rest of Dumbfukistan pulling us down and embarrassing us infront of the civilized world. With their liberal agendas and far right mindsets. We could be a thriving nation with progressive policies free of racism and religious nuts. Hopefully we keep our Nukes and Mexicans, we need a strong military and workforce
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great, texas can separate, when latinos reach the majority it can go take its rightful place again as a mexican state.... reconquista!!!!!!






































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I seriously don't blame them.....

I've been a major advocate for California's secession for the longest time. We can be our own nation free from the rest of Dumbfukistan pulling us down and embarrassing us infront of the civilized world. With their liberal agendas and far right mindsets. We could be a thriving nation with progressive policies free of racism and religious nuts. Hopefully we keep our Nukes and Mexicans, we need a strong military and workforce
so basically you want your fake nation to be just like america. got it thanks.
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so basically you want your fake nation to be just like america. got it thanks.
umm no, 46% of Americans still believe in Creationism.
people around the world literally laugh at the U.S....


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I seriously don't blame them.....

I've been a major advocate for California's secession for the longest time. We can be our own nation free from the rest of Dumbfukistan pulling us down and embarrassing us infront of the civilized world. With their liberal agendas and far right mindsets. We could be a thriving nation with progressive policies free of racism and religious nuts. Hopefully we keep our Nukes and Mexicans, we need a strong military and workforce
I'm pretty sure the rest of the country would do whatever it takes to help California no longer be part of this nation.
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