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Old 11-12-2012, 10:55 AM
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A lot of fans are asking about how these fights play out. I think the most exciting fight of these 3 is Mares vs Santa Cruz but I agree in Mares wanting to see Donaire because that's the money fight.

I also disagree with Al Berstein in saying that Mares is nothing more than a brawler. Mares boxed beautifully against Perez and Vic. He can do it all and against Moreno showed he can come forward and be a pressure fighter.

I do see Donaire beating both Santa Cruz and Mares but I think Santa Cruz gives him a tougher fight because of the chin and pressure. We have yet to see Donaire pressured and hit hard and Santa Cruz will do that.
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:22 AM
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:30 AM
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A lot of fans are asking about how these fights play out. I think the most exciting fight of these 3 is Mares vs Santa Cruz but I agree in Mares wanting to see Donaire because that's the money fight.

I also disagree with Al Berstein in saying that Mares is nothing more than a brawler. Mares boxed beautifully against Perez and Vic. He can do it all and against Moreno showed he can come forward and be a pressure fighter.

I do see Donaire beating both Santa Cruz and Mares but I think Santa Cruz gives him a tougher fight because of the chin and pressure. We have yet to see Donaire pressured and hit hard and Santa Cruz will do that.

darchinyan did try to bully donaire that proved to be a bad idea, and we all know how hard darchinyan hits especially in the lower divisions. i don't get all these notions about pressuring donaire. a guy like donaire who has good speed and power on both hands, a good counterpuncher with good footwork and who can read and anticipates his opponent's attack...that's the last fighter you want to pressure. his counters are explosive and he only needs a small opening for that. basically he can get to you before you can get to him.
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:32 AM
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A lot of fans are asking about how these fights play out. I think the most exciting fight of these 3 is Mares vs Santa Cruz but I agree in Mares wanting to see Donaire because that's the money fight.

I also disagree with Al Berstein in saying that Mares is nothing more than a brawler. Mares boxed beautifully against Perez and Vic. He can do it all and against Moreno showed he can come forward and be a pressure fighter.

I do see Donaire beating both Santa Cruz and Mares but I think Santa Cruz gives him a tougher fight because of the chin and pressure. We have yet to see Donaire pressured and hit hard and Santa Cruz will do that.


darchinyan did try to bully donaire that proved to be a bad idea, and we all know how hard darchinyan hits especially in the lower divisions. i don't get all these notions about pressuring donaire. a guy like donaire who has good speed and power on both hands, a good counterpuncher with good footwork and who can read and anticipates his opponent's attack...that's the last fighter you want to pressure. his counters are explosive and he only needs a small opening for that. basically he can get to you before you can get to him.
So how does a fighter beat Donaire?


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Old 11-12-2012, 11:40 AM
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:43 AM
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a moreno with good power can beat donaire...too bad moreno doesn't have it.
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darchinyan did try to bully donaire that proved to be a bad idea, and we all know how hard darchinyan hits especially in the lower divisions. i don't get all these notions about pressuring donaire. a guy like donaire who has good speed and power on both hands, a good counterpuncher with good footwork and who can read and anticipates his opponent's attack...that's the last fighter you want to pressure. his counters are explosive and he only needs a small opening for that. basically he can get to you before you can get to him.
Vic is a much different fighter than Santa Cruz. He is awkward but doesn't give you the relentless pressure with incredible body work that Santa Cruz does.

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There's a few ways but it's WHO that's the better question. If you want a slick boxer from the outside, he needs to be incredibly skilled, I don't see that guy out there at that weight class. Maybe Rigo by points but it would be hard.

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a moreno with good power can beat donaire...too bad moreno doesn't have it.
Yes but is that guy out there? I don't see him.
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So rigo doesn't belong in this discussion?
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I think Nonito and Santa Cruz are the two guys that can beat Mares. Santa Cruz will match you punch for punch and then some and Nonito has the power to keep you honest. If any of these fights got made it would be must see tv.
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