Bookmark Website  | Free Registration  | The Team
Boxing Champions |  Boxing Schedule |  Boxing Video  |  Boxing History   |  Pound For Pound  | Lounge  | The Wire |  Audio  | Arcade

Navigation
Go Back   Boxing Forum > Boxing Forums > Non Stop Boxing
Reply
Thread Navigation

#1
Old 11-07-2012, 08:29 PM
Cupo303
Stevenson is neXt
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 9,389
Rep Power: 40 Cupo303 has a reputation beyond reputeCupo303 has a reputation beyond reputeCupo303 has a reputation beyond reputeCupo303 has a reputation beyond reputeCupo303 has a reputation beyond reputeCupo303 has a reputation beyond reputeCupo303 has a reputation beyond reputeCupo303 has a reputation beyond reputeCupo303 has a reputation beyond reputeCupo303 has a reputation beyond reputeCupo303 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 3,065,177,089,295.92
Bank: 12,020,492,262,186.53
Total Points: 15,085,669,351,482.45
have a beer - AL YANKAB*TCH Wladimir Klitschko the WBA WBO IBF IBO Ring Champion - Freedom. Happy 5k posts, to one of the more intelligent posters! - *Boss Lady* Happy 5015th post! - Flab One of the best posters out there - Superflo777 
one of boxingscene's best - Freedom. one of the best - sugarsmosley 
Cultural Diversity - Hunger - Leukemia - Lupus - Melanoma - Racial Tolerance - Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy Syndrome - Self Injury - bearman3000 
Default Will Wladimir Klitschko have to change his usual style against Wach?

Will his usual style work against a taller man? Will he have to use more head movement to dodge punches, punches which will on his eye level or can he still just stick out the jab and slightly back up as he does against smaller opponents?

Seems to me that his usual style won't work in terms of defense. He will have to exude a little bit more energy then usual to win this one. Unless Wach is so terrible that he just flattens him with the fist real punch he throws/lands.
Reply With Quote
Cupo303 is offline
Advertisements
>>>TO REMOVE THESE ADS, PLEASE REGISTER HERE FOR FREE<<<
#2
Old 11-07-2012, 08:31 PM
eurochamp
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 222
Rep Power: 0 eurochamp has a reputation beyond reputeeurochamp has a reputation beyond reputeeurochamp has a reputation beyond reputeeurochamp has a reputation beyond reputeeurochamp has a reputation beyond reputeeurochamp has a reputation beyond reputeeurochamp has a reputation beyond reputeeurochamp has a reputation beyond reputeeurochamp has a reputation beyond reputeeurochamp has a reputation beyond reputeeurochamp has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 24,067.70
Bank: 1,082,438,654.59
Total Points: 1,082,462,722.29
Great Post - Berges one of boxingscene's best posters - Freedom. 
Default

Have you seen the Ray Austin fight or the Tony Thompson fight?both ended in brutal ko's same as this one will. It will be very entertaining
Reply With Quote
eurochamp is offline
#3
Old 11-07-2012, 08:33 PM
Medved
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: RIP MANNY
Posts: 24,109
Rep Power: 0 Medved has a reputation beyond reputeMedved has a reputation beyond reputeMedved has a reputation beyond reputeMedved has a reputation beyond reputeMedved has a reputation beyond reputeMedved has a reputation beyond reputeMedved has a reputation beyond reputeMedved has a reputation beyond reputeMedved has a reputation beyond reputeMedved has a reputation beyond reputeMedved has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 175,000,082,972.40
Bank: 9,313,067,849,262.50
Total Points: 9,488,067,932,234.90
Thanks you - Devils Advocate one of our best posters - Freedom. Have a beer for many stellar posts on the K-Bros! - ChopperRead That post of yours had me laughing my butt off.  Good stuff. - Rip Chudd No Message - dancovboxer 
Cheers for the stream &amp; joining in the thread, great chat - dancovboxer Keep up the comedy - rorymac You deserve it - Rocky... for helping bombs the great - Bombs No Message - rorymac 
Season 2 Champion of The Predictorship Challenge - D4thincarnation Merry Christmas and Happy New Year - Freedom. Merry Christmas &amp; happy New years bro! - dan_cov 
Cultural Diversity - Hunger - Leukemia - Lupus - Melanoma - Racial Tolerance - Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy Syndrome - Self Injury - S H O B O X Bone Marrow Donation - Childhood Depression - Depression - Environment - Eye Injury Prevention - Glaucoma - Kidney Cancer - Kidney Disease - Kidney Transplantation - Leukemia - Lyme Disease - Mental Retardation - Missing Children - Organ Donation - T - `STEELHEAD Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - dj emz Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - Willie Swindler Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - jazluvr 
Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - Mooncat 
Default

I think it works to Wlad's favor. When he fights smaller men he constantly has to be quicker than them and out technique them. When he fights big guys like him he's 3x faster/stronger so they go down quick and dont have the skills to hang in with him.

This will be a KO for Wlad
Reply With Quote
Medved is offline
#4
Old 11-07-2012, 08:36 PM
eurochamp
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 222
Rep Power: 0 eurochamp has a reputation beyond reputeeurochamp has a reputation beyond reputeeurochamp has a reputation beyond reputeeurochamp has a reputation beyond reputeeurochamp has a reputation beyond reputeeurochamp has a reputation beyond reputeeurochamp has a reputation beyond reputeeurochamp has a reputation beyond reputeeurochamp has a reputation beyond reputeeurochamp has a reputation beyond reputeeurochamp has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 24,067.70
Bank: 1,082,438,654.59
Total Points: 1,082,462,722.29
Great Post - Berges one of boxingscene's best posters - Freedom. 
Default

Wladamir will be the smaller faster fighter which will allow him to let his hands go more.This fight will not last long at all.
Reply With Quote
eurochamp is offline
#5
Old 11-07-2012, 08:40 PM
Cupo303
Stevenson is neXt
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 9,389
Rep Power: 40 Cupo303 has a reputation beyond reputeCupo303 has a reputation beyond reputeCupo303 has a reputation beyond reputeCupo303 has a reputation beyond reputeCupo303 has a reputation beyond reputeCupo303 has a reputation beyond reputeCupo303 has a reputation beyond reputeCupo303 has a reputation beyond reputeCupo303 has a reputation beyond reputeCupo303 has a reputation beyond reputeCupo303 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 3,065,177,089,295.92
Bank: 12,020,492,262,186.53
Total Points: 15,085,669,351,482.45
have a beer - AL YANKAB*TCH Wladimir Klitschko the WBA WBO IBF IBO Ring Champion - Freedom. Happy 5k posts, to one of the more intelligent posters! - *Boss Lady* Happy 5015th post! - Flab One of the best posters out there - Superflo777 
one of boxingscene's best - Freedom. one of the best - sugarsmosley 
Cultural Diversity - Hunger - Leukemia - Lupus - Melanoma - Racial Tolerance - Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy Syndrome - Self Injury - bearman3000 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by eurochamp View Post
Have you seen the Ray Austin fight or the Tony Thompson fight?both ended in brutal ko's same as this one will. It will be very entertaining
Neither one of those two was taller than Wlad. But I didn't say that Wach will give him problems. I still think Wlad will win this. Check my post history. I'm a huge defender of Wlad.

I asked a question. Will he have to change his pace and style, which he has been applying for the last few years. A successful style but one that I can't possibly see working against a taller man.

He usually paws his jab at his smaller opponents with the occasional power jab to back them off. He keeps his stance high and uses his legs for defense. When the smaller opponents swings, he backs off slightly and they hit his shoulder at best. This can't possibly work against a 6'7 guy. Now Wlad in his younger years, has shown a more versatile style by moving around a lot more and wasting more energy. Thus the KO losses to Purrity Brewster out of exhaustion. He may need to go back to that, just for this fight.


Anyway, this question is purely Academic, as I think Wlad will win by KO.
Reply With Quote
Cupo303 is offline
#6
Old 11-07-2012, 08:42 PM
New England
Heavy Duty
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Boston.
Posts: 26,827
Rep Power: 100 New England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 6,002,681,641,452.38
Bank: 99,510,438,943,797.38
Total Points: 105,513,120,585,249.77
Congrats on 3000 First Class Posts buddy! - The Surgeon Merry Christmas - The Surgeon for a great poster! - sweetpea87 Drinks on me brother - BoxingGenius27 I hate boxing too, lmaaoooooooooooo - Sweet Pea 50 
thanks for the green...always enjoy reading your post...green you once I can again... - jose830 great poster award - jazluvr Merry Christmas bro. Kick back and enjoy. Surround yourself with your loved ones and have a cold one. - deanrw Happy Holidays  New England - !! AI-Holmes!! Ma nigguh, you should come to Ol' England. - D-MiZe 
for entering the weed thread! - HUGH JASS BoxingScene's Educator-in-chief - Dr Rumack i didn't know you live in that area affected, my heart goes out to you...stay strong homie - jose830 #freeNewEnglang - thuggery Coming home on parole brew. - Sweet Pea 50 
top poster and cool story in my thread of how you first joined boxingscene. - HUGH JASS happy independence day you zulu warrior!!! - HUGH JASS For the fitness and nutrition advice, thanks. - jas A top poster - jas For being a roided up freakazoid - Cuauhtémoc1520 
Childhood Cancer - khepesh Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - jazluvr World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - jose830 Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - jose830 World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - -jose- 
Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - -jose- Childhood Cancer - sugarsmosley 
Default

i think wach's going to be way too big to get out of the way of the righ thand when wladimir decides he can land it and actually throws the thing.


i've only seen wach fight once or twice, so i can't be completely confident, but i think we'll see wladimir throwing the big right hand earlier when he finds out how available a huge man like wach is


wach looks ready, though. i'm expecting a fun fight, actually.


contrary to the likely perception, i love to watch wladimir operate. he's one of the two or three best pure boxers on the planet in terms of his skills and as a stylist.
Reply With Quote
New England is offline
#7
Old 11-07-2012, 08:45 PM
New England
Heavy Duty
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Boston.
Posts: 26,827
Rep Power: 100 New England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 6,002,681,641,452.38
Bank: 99,510,438,943,797.38
Total Points: 105,513,120,585,249.77
Congrats on 3000 First Class Posts buddy! - The Surgeon Merry Christmas - The Surgeon for a great poster! - sweetpea87 Drinks on me brother - BoxingGenius27 I hate boxing too, lmaaoooooooooooo - Sweet Pea 50 
thanks for the green...always enjoy reading your post...green you once I can again... - jose830 great poster award - jazluvr Merry Christmas bro. Kick back and enjoy. Surround yourself with your loved ones and have a cold one. - deanrw Happy Holidays  New England - !! AI-Holmes!! Ma nigguh, you should come to Ol' England. - D-MiZe 
for entering the weed thread! - HUGH JASS BoxingScene's Educator-in-chief - Dr Rumack i didn't know you live in that area affected, my heart goes out to you...stay strong homie - jose830 #freeNewEnglang - thuggery Coming home on parole brew. - Sweet Pea 50 
top poster and cool story in my thread of how you first joined boxingscene. - HUGH JASS happy independence day you zulu warrior!!! - HUGH JASS For the fitness and nutrition advice, thanks. - jas A top poster - jas For being a roided up freakazoid - Cuauhtémoc1520 
Childhood Cancer - khepesh Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - jazluvr World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - jose830 Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - jose830 World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - -jose- 
Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - -jose- Childhood Cancer - sugarsmosley 
Default

how big is the ring, curiously?

i'm guessing it won't matter, but wach will be tough to tie up. wladimir usually just drapes a shoulder over a guy and walks him to the ropes. wach's too big for that. i'd guess that wladimir spends a lot of time using every bit of the ring
Reply With Quote
New England is offline
#8
Old 11-07-2012, 08:51 PM
Cupo303
Stevenson is neXt
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 9,389
Rep Power: 40 Cupo303 has a reputation beyond reputeCupo303 has a reputation beyond reputeCupo303 has a reputation beyond reputeCupo303 has a reputation beyond reputeCupo303 has a reputation beyond reputeCupo303 has a reputation beyond reputeCupo303 has a reputation beyond reputeCupo303 has a reputation beyond reputeCupo303 has a reputation beyond reputeCupo303 has a reputation beyond reputeCupo303 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 3,065,177,089,295.92
Bank: 12,020,492,262,186.53
Total Points: 15,085,669,351,482.45
have a beer - AL YANKAB*TCH Wladimir Klitschko the WBA WBO IBF IBO Ring Champion - Freedom. Happy 5k posts, to one of the more intelligent posters! - *Boss Lady* Happy 5015th post! - Flab One of the best posters out there - Superflo777 
one of boxingscene's best - Freedom. one of the best - sugarsmosley 
Cultural Diversity - Hunger - Leukemia - Lupus - Melanoma - Racial Tolerance - Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy Syndrome - Self Injury - bearman3000 
Default

Look at the way Wlad is preparing for this fight, in this video:



No head movement, just straight punches. He seems to preparing just like he does for all the other smaller opponents. Standard procedure as if to say, "Just another day at the office", "nothing to see here folks".

Unless he is secretly working on a Floyd-esque shoulder roll, his defense looks weak in terms of facing a taller guy. I'm assuming that the punches coming from Wach will be on his eye level. So a straight punch from Wach will travel straight towards his chin. You can't simply back out the way or evade it with a pawing jab. He would have to slip and duck under those punches, I'm presuming. Or maybe Wach just sucks that badly that it won't matter.

Or maybe Wlad is like Cotto. Cotto looks slow as sh1t during training camp footage, but seems to pick up the pace in actual fights.
Reply With Quote
Cupo303 is offline
#9
Old 11-07-2012, 08:52 PM
Evil Abed
The Darkest Timeline...
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: State College, PA
Posts: 22,711
Rep Power: 80 Evil Abed has a reputation beyond reputeEvil Abed has a reputation beyond reputeEvil Abed has a reputation beyond reputeEvil Abed has a reputation beyond reputeEvil Abed has a reputation beyond reputeEvil Abed has a reputation beyond reputeEvil Abed has a reputation beyond reputeEvil Abed has a reputation beyond reputeEvil Abed has a reputation beyond reputeEvil Abed has a reputation beyond reputeEvil Abed has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 19,817,599,106.86
Bank: 64,804,173,311,078.05
Total Points: 64,823,990,910,184.91
Jimmy Malone sends his regards! - LeeVanCleef have a beer - -MAKAVELLI- Some fruit for a stalwart of this magnificent craft. - Robin Hood One ring to rule em all... - -KULT- even phantom need to eat.. - -KULT- 
some more food.. - -KULT- Happy beerday bro - Talisayen Feliz Cumpleanos - MANIAC310 happy birthday homie - hhs661 happy bday bro - chiguy91 
Thanks. I can't sent you green. - Carpe Diem merry x-mas! - chiguy91 you're the reason i dont need to check twitter lol - -MAKAVELLI- One of NSBs best - BostonGuy 20k - MELLY-MEL... 
Beer on the house on your 20k post... - jose830 i enjoy your posts mate, grats on 20k - Alx. To 20k more - Sweet Pea 50 Here's one on me. Congrats! - Led® your posts are always hilarious and entertaining - Alx. 
Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - ThePhantom5 Childhood Cancer - ThePhantom5 Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - jazluvr Bone Marrow Donation - Childhood Depression - Depression - Environment - Eye Injury Prevention - Glaucoma - Kidney Cancer - Kidney Disease - Kidney Transplantation - Leukemia - Lyme Disease - Mental Retardation - Missing Children - Organ Donation - T - jazluvr Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - -KULT- 
World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - -KULT- Bone Marrow Donation - Childhood Depression - Depression - Environment - Eye Injury Prevention - Glaucoma - Kidney Cancer - Kidney Disease - Kidney Transplantation - Leukemia - Lyme Disease - Mental Retardation - Missing Children - Organ Donation - T - TBear World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - TBear 
Default

Wach doesn't fight to his full height. He kinda hunches over. Wlad might look taller in the ring.
Reply With Quote
Evil Abed is offline
#10
Old 11-07-2012, 08:53 PM
elfag
Hawaiian F@g
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 3,379
Rep Power: 0 elfag is infamous around these partselfag is infamous around these partselfag is infamous around these partselfag is infamous around these partselfag is infamous around these partselfag is infamous around these partselfag is infamous around these partselfag is infamous around these partselfag is infamous around these partselfag is infamous around these partselfag is infamous around these parts
Points: 1,100,111,480.76
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 1,100,111,480.76
Default

Wach is complete ****. All of the people saying he posses a threat now will be saying what a bum he is after the fight. Go look him up on youtube, this guy is one of the worst wlad has fought in a while and that is saying something.
Reply With Quote
elfag is offline
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
change, klitschko, style, usual, wach?, wladimir

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Privacy Policy - Submit News - Feedback - Site Map - Advertise with Us

Copyright © 2003-2013 BoxingScene LLC All rights reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:51 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.