I can not wait until Manny and Floyd retire,they are terrible for the sport - Page 2

TheHolyCross

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Originally Posted by eurochamp

Manny and Floyd are ruining the sport,point blank period and Arum and Oscar trying to keep fights in house are a cancer to the sport as well

hardley, klitschko's the heavyweight champs are the ones that killed the most lucrative division with the jab jab hug

eurochamp

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Originally Posted by TheHolyCross

hardley, klitschko's the heavyweight champs are the ones that killed the most lucrative division with the jab jab hug

Why? because they actually fought everyone and dominated them? how is that ruining anything?they didn't give a thousand excuses why they would not fight someone nor do they have a promoter running their career's

bigsmoothh

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Originally Posted by TheHolyCross

off the top of my head
pacquiao-hatton
pacquiao-cotto
mayweather-castillo
mayweather-corralles
alvarado-rios
chavez jr-martinez

golden boy has given us?
canelo vs trash?
mayweather-ortiz?

golden boy majority of the time is just feeding someone to another

atleast we get moreno-anselmo

good post mate. golden boy also gave us a great card in the "ko kings" showtime event.

canelo vs jasesito
maidana vs karras
ponce de leon vs gonzalez
santa cruz vs morel

Dr Rumack

Even if Manny and Floyd retired at the end of the year, it's not as if the other guys could just step into their shoes. It takes time to build up the profile that both of them have.

It would mean that Arum, Haymon, HBO et al. would have to create some new stars alright though, at which point the whole cycle would start all over again.

eurochamp

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Originally Posted by Dr Rumack

Even if Manny and Floyd retired at the end of the year, it's not as if the other guys could just step into their shoes. It takes time to build up the profile that both of them have.

It would mean that Arum, Haymon, HBO et al. would have to create some new stars alright though, at which point the whole cycle would start all over again.

I just want other fighters to get the attention they deserve.Because these 2 do not deserve it.

Fetta

I hope they both lose and retire

Frank Ducketts

It's Bob Arum and Pacquiao. Pacquiaos fans are the worst bandwagon trolls of the sport. Soon Pacquiao will be retired, and those fans will no longer watch boxing. They don't even like Donaire which I find hilarious!

eurochamp

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Originally Posted by Frank Ducketts

It's Bob Arum and Pacquiao. Pacquiaos fans are the worst bandwagon trolls of the sport. Soon Pacquiao will be retired, and those fans will no longer watch boxing. They don't even like Donaire which I find hilarious!

The Floyd fans are no better man,all need to kill the noise and direct their infatuation to fighters who deserve it.

boliodogs

I don't think Floyd and Pacquiao are hurting boxing. How could having two great fighters in the sport hurt it. If they have some annoying fans just ignore them. The fact that they will probably never fight each other even though the fans want them to fight is really no big deal. When they fight it's against high rated fighters and they put on a good show. The Mayweather-Cotto fight was a good fight between two very good fighters. Pacquiao-Bradley was two top ten pfp. fighters against each other even if it was just an average fight. Mayweather and Pacquiao have every right to keep making the big bucks for as long as they want to. They earned that right by fighting their way up to the top. I believe Pacquiao's fight with Marquez is going to be a good one and I am looking forward to it. If Mayweather fights again I think he will fight a top fighter and perform well. When either one of them retires I think they will be missed. Boxing will do fine with or without them. There are many good fighters all over the world and more coming up all the time. These two top guys cannot ruin boxing or save boxing. I do think they help boxing by bring world wide attention to the sport. Just about everyone in the world knows who Floyd and Manny are including non boxing fans.

CatchweightKing

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Originally Posted by bigsmoothh

ive been sayin this for years now. bob arum ruins the sport as well.

Bob arum has built up the sport more than anyone in the past 30 years and is responsible for the biggest names today being where they are.

Dr Rumack Undisputed Champion Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 2,943 Rep Power: 12 Points: 3,017,000,074,356.65 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 3,017,000,074,356.65 Donate	Even if Manny and Floyd retired at the end of the year, it's not as if the other guys could just step into their shoes. It takes time to build up the profile that both of them have. It would mean that Arum, Haymon, HBO et al. would have to create some new stars alright though, at which point the whole cycle would start all over again.

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Frank Ducketts Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: All over Posts: 5,894 Rep Power: 0 Points: 10,223,985.63 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 10,223,985.63 Donate	It's Bob Arum and Pacquiao. Pacquiaos fans are the worst bandwagon trolls of the sport. Soon Pacquiao will be retired, and those fans will no longer watch boxing. They don't even like Donaire which I find hilarious!