I'm sorry. I just rewatched Wladimir vs Haye. Why all the blame on Haye? - Page 3

Enzo Mc is SHIT

Wlad was every bit as afraid of Haye as vice versa. He just had the benefit of being much, much bigger.

Juof

Haye talked a good fight coming in to the fight, he threw jack sizzle but when he tried to commit to his shots wlad would hold him

HooksInYou

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Originally Posted by Napalm Death

Didn't Wlad promise to give Haye a "pizza face" and make him his 50th knockout win? I don't remember him living up to these promises.

Haye promised to leave Wladimir "quivering on the canvass". I don't remember that happening, either. Not that it matters, because the purpose of pre-fight talk is mostly to promote the fight.

When a taller fighter uses his height advantage to win a fight (as he should) many fans end up disappointed (Lewis vs Tua, etc).

HooksInYou

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Originally Posted by Enzo Mc is ****

Wlad was every bit as afraid of Haye as vice versa. He just had the benefit of being much, much bigger.

3 or 4 inches bigger. Less than the height advantage Razor Ruddock, Frank Bruno, Tony Tucker, and Carl Williams had over Mike Tyson

bojangles1987

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Originally Posted by letsgobrady

why should wlad get critcized for doing what he normally does?did wlad win?haye was the 1 talking about he was a killer and he was gonna take heads off and he was gonna make the fight exciting not wlad

There are very basic things a fighter can do to stop their opponent from running around the ring and making them miss like Wlad did for much of that fight, of which Wlad did none of them. Yes, Wlad won, but not impressively, and not in a way that made me think very highly of the win.

Haye was worse, but Wlad didn't fight great himself.

MJ223

Wlad did what he had to do to win...... Haye didn't

Hayehammer

Exactly! Neither man did enough for me in that fight! yes wlad won but he could have done more! same with haye

sunny31

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Originally Posted by HooksInYou

3 or 4 inches bigger. Less than the height advantage Razor Ruddock, Frank Bruno, Tony Tucker, and Carl Williams had over Mike Tyson

Yes but in terms of density and weight the difference is huge. Height is only one factor, reaches another, style is another. Haye is not a true heavyweight like most of the guys above, he never properly filled into a heavyweight frame like Holyfield for example. Haye gets by because he is very quick and hits extremely hard, but he is not a stocky strong fighter, he is a lean back foot counter puncher.

yoz

It was a chess match. Neither fighter wanted to engage; although after Wlad's big right in round 5/6, Haye ran.

TX_BOXNG

why would big Klit have to change his gameplan he skooled him easily lol

View Poll Results: Who was to blame for the horrific fight Wladimir vs Haye
They were both to blame. Both scared of each other	33	40.74%
Wladimir was to blame with his holding,lean,non aggressiveness	13	16.05%
David Haye was to blame with his running and movement	35	43.21%
Voters: 81. You may not vote on this poll

Enzo Mc is SHIT Undisputed Champion Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2,228 Rep Power: 8 Points: 101,067,732.87 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 101,067,732.87 Donate	Wlad was every bit as afraid of Haye as vice versa. He just had the benefit of being much, much bigger.

Juof Undisputed Champion Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: England Posts: 2,033 Rep Power: 11 Points: 350,122,735.72 Bank: 136,555,900,746.61 Total Points: 136,906,023,482.33 Donate	Haye talked a good fight coming in to the fight, he threw jack sizzle but when he tried to commit to his shots wlad would hold him

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Hayehammer Undisputed Champion Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,476 Rep Power: 7 Points: 65,649.46 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 65,649.46 Donate	Exactly! Neither man did enough for me in that fight! yes wlad won but he could have done more! same with haye

yoz Yoz Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 3,162 Rep Power: 13 Points: 4,000,014,304.80 Bank: 2,928,279,756,013.99 Total Points: 2,932,279,770,318.79 Donate	It was a chess match. Neither fighter wanted to engage; although after Wlad's big right in round 5/6, Haye ran.

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