Do you agree with ESPN as Pacquiao #4 P4P?

BoxingFollower

Seems like the boxing world has turned up side down, not so long ago was Pacquaio seen across ALL media ventures as Number 1 P4P in the sport.

Now on ESPN and many other outlets, Pacquiao is not ranked 1 nor 2. Do you agree than Floyd Mayweather, Andre Ward, Sergio Martinez all deserved to be ranked higher than the Filipino King?

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...d-pound-boxers

ModernTalking

I don't understand some of these site. They drop PAC because they say he lost to Bradley but then they don't give Bradley the P4P he deserve

. If you drop PAC because you believe he got whoop, the guy who did the whooping should get his spot.

DoktorSleepless

Many Pacquiao just beat Timothy Bradley (official result notwithstanding), who was in most people's top 10 p4p lists. While Mayweather beat Ortiz, Ward beat Dawson at 168, and Martinez beat Chavez Jr. Bradley > Ortiz, Dawson at 168, and Chavez Jr. I don't understand the sudden demotions at all.

FIGHTING_FLIP

i would say 3. but who cares right, there is no official p4p list anyway

BoxingFollower

Great Analysis guys, I'm not really sure, maybe it's Pacquiao's level of competition, ESPN'S boxing guys, Not Skip or Stephen. Have been arguing that Pacquiao has been taking weak competition for years now.

They congratulate him on fighting Tim Bradley, but when he does face a young hungry prime fighter, he loses, so i'm not sure.

revs1227

he is # 2 behind ward
ward is #1
no question ward is 1

Freedom.

Andre Ward should NOT be ranked ahead of Manny Pacquiao.

Ward is a pampered boxer who refused to fight outside the US in the Super Six, even though everybody else had to.

Ward relies on his home referees to permit him to use illegal tactics such as deliberate headbutts, hitting off the break and hitting while holding.

Pacquiao has never been afraid to move up the weight divisions and win titles, but Ward refused even to fight Dawson at a catchweight of 170.

Light_Speed

He should be #2 behind Floyd.

BoxingFollower

I think Martinez should be Ranked number 1, I just really don't see the reasoning that Floyd Mayweather is ranked higher, especially after Martinez's win over Chavez Jr.

lparm

I'm a huge Floyd fan but I don't think he's done enough to overtake Manny. The bradley result was a robbery with the snake arum trying to create a new star. He failed haha.

View Poll Results: Is ESPN's ranking system right?
Pacquiao is ranked about right	34	52.31%
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ModernTalking Undisputed Champion Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,395 Rep Power: 17 Points: 5,212,881.88 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 5,212,881.88 Donate	I don't understand some of these site. They drop PAC because they say he lost to Bradley but then they don't give Bradley the P4P he deserve . If you drop PAC because you believe he got whoop, the guy who did the whooping should get his spot.

DoktorSleepless Undisputed Champion Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 5,270 Rep Power: 18 Points: 11,187,627,932.31 Bank: 6,543,229,009.01 Total Points: 17,730,856,941.32 Donate	Many Pacquiao just beat Timothy Bradley (official result notwithstanding), who was in most people's top 10 p4p lists. While Mayweather beat Ortiz, Ward beat Dawson at 168, and Martinez beat Chavez Jr. Bradley > Ortiz, Dawson at 168, and Chavez Jr. I don't understand the sudden demotions at all.

FIGHTING_FLIP "BAD NEWS" Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: BAY Posts: 2,947 Rep Power: 13 Points: 265,394.57 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 265,394.57 Donate	i would say 3. but who cares right, there is no official p4p list anyway

BoxingFollower Banned Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Las Vegas Age: 23 Posts: 2,696 Rep Power: 0 Points: 5,220,595.05 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 5,220,595.05 Donate	Great Analysis guys, I'm not really sure, maybe it's Pacquiao's level of competition, ESPN'S boxing guys, Not Skip or Stephen. Have been arguing that Pacquiao has been taking weak competition for years now. They congratulate him on fighting Tim Bradley, but when he does face a young hungry prime fighter, he loses, so i'm not sure.

revs1227 Undisputed Champion Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: OZONE PARK QUEENS NEW YORK CITY Age: 25 Posts: 7,271 Rep Power: 25 Points: 3,294,222,896.79 Bank: 15,079,776,343.40 Total Points: 18,373,999,240.19 Donate	he is # 2 behind ward ward is #1 no question ward is 1

Light_Speed SPEED IS POWER Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 8,079 Rep Power: 41 Points: 54,042,249,041.65 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 54,042,249,041.65 Donate	He should be #2 behind Floyd.

lparm Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,870 Rep Power: 0 Points: 1,010,222,601.16 Bank: 1,195,560,377.99 Total Points: 2,205,782,979.15 Donate	I'm a huge Floyd fan but I don't think he's done enough to overtake Manny. The bradley result was a robbery with the snake arum trying to create a new star. He failed haha.