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Old 10-27-2012, 12:03 PM
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Old 10-27-2012, 12:07 PM
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How much does insurance cost and what happens if you don't pay your bill?.

they'll eventually go through a collection agency, which will ruin your credit.

you won't be able to qualify for loans, housing, etc. it can ruin your prospects of a decent middle class living.


insurance isn't too expensive if you are young and healthy, but if you are not it can become very pricey. the best way to get it is through the company you work for. bigger companies insure many people at once, allowing for much lower premiums. it will be included in your salary.


if you've got to buy it on your own it's quite pricey.
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Old 10-27-2012, 12:37 PM
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This is pretty much what we should all be aiming for.

Here in Aus its getting that way, but it is probably a little in favour of not paying for it.

eg my Bro makes $60k a year and doesnt have it, simple because hes covered anyway, we all are.

its not easy but the US seems to have it wrong imo.
I don't know why American's are so averse to socialised medicine?

National insurance is still an insurance or tax so to speak, except it goes in to a national pot and it's far cheaper than forking out for private insurance (which is still an option even in the UK). It's still the citizens who pay for it, not the government.

I think America should implement a NI for healthcare so everyone is covered and won't face huge financially debilitating medical bills should they fall ill. However, they should include an opt out policy for those who would prefer to continue to be covered by their private insurance provider and don't want to contribute to the national well being.

That way, those who are afraid of the communists can have their extortionate medical insurance and the associated risks of coverage. Everyone is happy.
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Old 10-27-2012, 03:47 PM
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Wow has it really changed that much in 4 years? Must be change you can believe in.

Buried in the study is the fact that only 27 percent of the surveyed debtors had unreimbursed medical expenses exceeding $1,000 over the course of the two years prior to their bankruptcy. ů Nobody likes to pay $1,000 in medical expenses even when they get two years to do it in, but for most Americans (particularly those with enough at stake to seek the protection of bankruptcy) it is not catastrophic.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/12/hea...-bankruptcies/

What about that tort reform! That will surely help medical costs go down, right? Oh wait, we've already had tort reform, and medical costs did nothing but INCREASE for the American citizen!

Consider yourself FACT CHECKED.
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Old 10-27-2012, 03:48 PM
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Hahahaha. . . Blame the English posters, I learned the term from them. .

Also heard Carl Froch use it in an interview when talking about his lumps he's got in training camp.
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Old 10-27-2012, 03:56 PM
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Holy ****. . .

Lol but you should have just gone to Urgent Care. .

Or I know this sounds stupid, but unless you really feel that horrible, you can self-diagnose yourself with a few google searches, or medical websites. I've done it a few times, found what was wrong, used the remedies, and got better.

I haven't even had a common cold in like 5-6 years, but I've gotten little niggles, migraines, food poisoning, terrible bloating, green poop, etc. . .

But if you really felt that bad, you should have gone to urgent care. Still would have been expensive, but a lot cheaper than an ER visit.

Anyway, in the future, we'll all have insurance coverage, so you wouldn't have to worry about it. . . In the meantime, if you have trouble paying it, you can just pay whatever you can each month - as long as you pay something.


I have had gallstone attacks before (I'm sure of this now thanks to a member sharing his experience) but this was was really bad. It lasted from 4 AM to around 2 pm, it felt like I had been uppercutted by Tyson right in the center of my abdomen. The pain is terrible, mainly because it is a constant pain.

Idk if you box but imagine you got hit with a nasty body shot, that initial pain is the worst and will subside after a few minutes. With a gallstone attack it feels like you just got hit with that body shot every single second, I'm surprised I didn't cry.


I got scared into going though, I've been able to toughen them out before, however my jaw locked for some reason this time. That scared me into going, I could barely open my jaw a few Cm. I didn't know if I was having a heart attack or what, it felt like I was dying.
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What about that tort reform! That will surely help medical costs go down, right? Oh wait, we've already had tort reform, and medical costs did nothing but INCREASE for the American citizen!

Consider yourself FACT CHECKED.
Good grief! Are you still trolling this piece of rubbish? First of all I believe it was 6th grade that I learned correlation doesn't (necessarily) equal causation. Second, immigration reform and amnesty was done under Reagan, but is more necessary today than ever. Third, it hasn't been done everywhere and lastly, it hasn't been done correctly.

But I'm flattered that you avoid 98% of my political posts (presumably out of ignorance) and have repeated this tripe ad nauseam because you're excited to finally have something worth saying at the adult table. Now come back when you're mature enough to argue like one.

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What about that tort reform! That will surely help medical costs go down, right? Oh wait, we've already had tort reform, and medical costs did nothing but INCREASE for the American citizen!

Consider yourself FACT CHECKED.
this kid is a repetitive retard.
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Good grief! Are you still trolling this piece of rubbish? First of all I believe it was 6th grade that I learned correlation doesn't (necessarily) equal causation. Second, immigration reform and amnesty was done under Reagan, but is more necessary today than ever. Third, it hasn't been done everywhere and lastly, it hasn't been done correctly.

But I'm flattered that you avoid 98% of my political posts (presumably out of ignorance) and have repeated this tripe ad nauseam because you're excited to finally have something worth to say at the adult table. Now come back when you're mature enough to argue like one.
the only way to deal with that retard is to ignore him or troll his stupidity.
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they'll eventually go through a collection agency, which will ruin your credit.

you won't be able to qualify for loans, housing, etc. it can ruin your prospects of a decent middle class living.


insurance isn't too expensive if you are young and healthy, but if you are not it can become very pricey. the best way to get it is through the company you work for. bigger companies insure many people at once, allowing for much lower premiums. it will be included in your salary.


if you've got to buy it on your own it's quite pricey.


I've heard they can garnish your wages as well, this true?


I'm pretty healthy aside of the gallstones but unfortunately can't afford health insurance, my work doesn't offer it, and the shyt hit the fan at my house with my stepdad getting cancer, my mother also has MS so she an work sparingly, I've been helping them with bills. Guess I'm gonna have to start selling meth lol.


I haven't had health insurance since HS, I've actually avoided almost every single basketball game and football game I've been invited to play in just for fun because I'm scared of injury. My main fear is messing something up in my knee like my ACL.


Idk if you guys know this but if you were to tear your ACL and had no medical insurance it can cost from $20,000-$40,000! Even with insurance I've heard of people paying around $2000.
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