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View Poll Results: If Wilder turn out to be the real deal. How big of a HW PPV Star can he be?
Easily 2+ MIllion 10 47.62%
1 million+ 1 4.76%
500-800kish 2 9.52%
Decent Star 250kish. Nothing big. Just solid 3 14.29%
It don't matter. The HW Marketability in America is honestly over. No PPV 5 23.81%
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Old 10-26-2012, 08:04 PM #11
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Doubt it would be very big but if Bryant Jennings pans out as well there might be something there.
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Of course he'd be a massive star, putting aside the fact that he's nowhere near talented enough, all the Americans would start saying he's better than the klitschko brothers ever were etc and he'd be on hbo ppv

americans aren't nearly as biased as you think we are, man.

when the best come to your country to fight your biases loosen.
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Old 10-26-2012, 08:05 PM #13
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He's already 27 years old. Poor management killed this dudes career.


And the U.S. Olympic heavyweight boxing class was pure unadulterated ass cheeks this year. I don't see a dominant heavyweight in the U.S. emerging for a long, long time.
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Old 10-26-2012, 08:15 PM #14
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The opponents don't matter that much, tyson still sold massive numbers against some rotten opposition
Only difference was Tyson didn't just beat opponent, he absolutely destroyed them. And the opposition he faced may not have been amazing, but still much better than the heavies of today.
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Old 10-26-2012, 08:19 PM #15
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The fighters in the division are currently horrible. And most people have now gotten a chance to see that skill and fitness are so much better at the lower weight classes anyway.
I'd say that the mystique of the heavyweight division is gone.
This...with the focus now on lighter classes, who have much different looks to them, and can put on shows. The heavyweight division to get back to where it was needs a few guys like tyson to pick up steam. It's just not going to happen anytime soon, specially with american HWs. The really big guys go into football now, that are extremely gifted athletes. Other countries don't really have NFL style yet, so they're better overseas. Its risk vs reward, just like in boxing. The odds of you making good money in football or at least getting your college paid for free, are a lot better than being a big time HW boxing star, its just economics.
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Old 10-26-2012, 08:33 PM #16
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Only difference was Tyson didn't just beat opponent, he absolutely destroyed them.
Except for Bonecrusher Smith of course.
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Old 10-26-2012, 08:44 PM #17
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Wilder has been poorly managed, but he he is very talented and has the potential to become a big star.
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I doubt Wilder will ever headline a ppv let alone sellingl

L0 those kinds of numbers
Its poeple like this that i wish would go away to ufc. They are so negative and most have no idea what they are saying. IF Wilder gains those belts and continue with the one punch kos, he will bring the heavyweight divison back. He is very Emotional. He brings attitudee and excitment.
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Except for Bonecrusher Smith of course.
Kind of hard to knock someone out when they spend most of their time running. Chisora kind of find that out with Vitali.
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Is the HW Marketability truly over in the United States?

If 6'7 D.Wilder turn out to be the real legit deal and KO top 10 opponents leading up to a super fight with Wladimir. Can he be a mega PPV Star?
Assuming some how he ends up on Prime Riddick Bowe level.

I mean if he is promoted right and end up knocking out the likes of Puluv-Povetkin-Adamek and other top 10 HW'S all leading to the big fight with Wlad. I see him becoming a decent PPV STAR.

The big issue imo with HW Marketing right now is that NOBODY knows who Puluv or Povetkin is. .So even if Wilder 'ko' the #3 guy in Povetkin, people will be like 'so what? who's that?
It all depends on how spectacular the knockouts are. If Tyson came around now, he'd be every much as big as he was in the 80's. He would steal the show, he would be boxing. Same for Ali. Time doesn't matter. These fighters now days are nothing compared to those two fighters.
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