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Old 10-16-2012, 01:15 AM
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By Lyle Fitzsimmons - Don’t get me wrong, folks. I’m all for excitement.

When two guys meet in ring center, drop all pretense about a battle of skills and simply stand toe to toe with designs on bashing each other into submission, I get as into it as the next guy.

I appreciated Gatti and Ward. I was in awe of Corrales and Castillo. And I watched with admiration on Saturday night when Brandon Rios and Mike Alvarado woke up their predecessors’ brutal echoes.

I humbly concede that the amount of heart, soul and guts that it takes to engage in such a competition – win, lose or draw – goes far beyond the capacity of keyboard-bashing wannabes like me.

In fact, none of us with a shred of integrity would even try to imply otherwise.

But excitement is one thing. Excellence is quite another.

And as titillating as the 1,316 throws and 337 lands might have been to the thousands in attendance and millions tuning in, they weren’t close to proving either the Coloradan or Californian were at all capable of handling a qualified foe whose skills had evolved much past a caveman’s.

Lest anyone forget, the Rios who’s being so breathlessly celebrated today is the same guy whose acumen was in doubt only six months ago, when an opponent with a strategy beyond smash and grab did everything but win on two of the year’s most nose-curdling scorecards.

Heck, that was only Richard Abril – a 29-year-old Cuban with a middling resume – and the springtime odor in Las Vegas was so bad that even the fairness-challenged WBA allowed him to keep hold of an interim title belt in spite of a decision officially split in the direction of his opponent.

But now, after 20 minutes of lumpy mayhem against a 32-year-old with a career’s worth of mid-card victims, Rios has somehow been vaulted past the guy who schooled him and into the high-end element of legit multiple-division entities like Juan Manuel Marquez and Manny Pacquiao. [Click Here To Read More]
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Old 10-16-2012, 01:22 AM
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Nice work, Lyle. That was about the closest thing to Hemingway I've ever read on this or any other site.
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Old 10-16-2012, 01:25 AM
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Absolutely true article. Rios has always been overrated because he's a tough, exciting, and fun fighter to watch. But as Abril proved, if you don't stand right in front of him and let him tee off on you he has nothing else. He really doesn't deserve a big ppv payday yet but he will get it anyway because fans will rally behind him the same way they do with Chavez jr. even though he's a limited fighter.
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Old 10-16-2012, 01:39 AM
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Rios>mattyhse, rios>Judah, rios>Peterson, rios>khan, rios> Garcia. Who else is there at 140 who you think would school him so bad? He'd KO all those guys quicker and uglier than Alvarado. Everyone knows it. That's why they are skipping the BS and puting him in with the winner of Pacquiao- Marquez. Hating is a waste of time. Go be a purist boxing snob elsewhere. You can watch Abril's Olympic fencing boxing style all you want in the dark in your moms basement. Stop lecturing people and looking down at those of us who also like to be entertained. There's no money or interest in the sport without rios and guys like him. You'd be out of a job and not writing about boxing cause no one would watch and no one would care.
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Old 10-16-2012, 01:55 AM
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Ure an idiot if you think rios can beat all of those guys Garcia Lucas madaina maybe even khan would beat rios they are bigger then him rios is small and mike got hit way too much Abril beat rios imagine what top guys would do
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Old 10-16-2012, 01:57 AM
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What's wrong with this guy, he sht!ts on both Rios and Alverado after an Amazing performance by both.

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Old 10-16-2012, 02:02 AM
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What's wrong with this guy, he sht!ts on both Rios and Alverado after an Amazing performance by both.
He didn't **** on their excitement to give us an entertaining fight. He just said that Rios isn't a very skilled fighter. He isn't there isn't much in the way you can say to back up saying he is. Exciting yes...but that's about all.
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Old 10-16-2012, 02:13 AM
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i think there's only two groups hyping rios up right now: a. hardcore rios fans and b. pacquiao fanatics cause they know arum is lining him up for april 20.

so i ask, should we really give a crap about what these people think?
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He didn't **** on their excitement to give us an entertaining fight. He just said(aka. ****s) that Rios isn't a very skilled fighter. He isn't there isn't much in the way you can say to back up saying he is. Exciting yes...but that's about all.
Exactly, he *****s on them after a great performance, glad you understood.
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Old 10-16-2012, 02:37 AM
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Rios>mattyhse, rios>Judah, rios>Peterson, rios>khan, rios> Garcia. Who else is there at 140 who you think would school him so bad? He'd KO all those guys quicker and uglier than Alvarado. Everyone knows it. That's why they are skipping the BS and puting him in with the winner of Pacquiao- Marquez. Hating is a waste of time. Go be a purist boxing snob elsewhere. You can watch Abril's Olympic fencing boxing style all you want in the dark in your moms basement. Stop lecturing people and looking down at those of us who also like to be entertained. There's no money or interest in the sport without rios and guys like him. You'd be out of a job and not writing about boxing cause no one would watch and no one would care.
I do agree with some of what you are saying but I think there is a reason why you left Adrian Bronner's name out because your post would have had to read like this: Bronner>Rios and not the other way around!

You seem to be an honest guy who likes to keep it real so lets be real; Rios is exciting and great for the sport of boxing, no one, not even the haters can argue that BUT as with any fighter Rios has flaws; He is one dimensional, no angles, flat footed, sub-par defense, limited athleticism and questionable speed. This is why the Richard Abril's of the world WILL ALWAYS be a bad match up for Brandon Rios even if you don't like a style like Richards (and I don't) but fighters like this will give Brandon fits.

Unfortunately for Rios he cannot avoid the slick boxers of his division forever. Not every fighter is going to stand there flat footed and stand in front of him like Mike Alvarado. And seriously I can't believe you picked Brandon Rios over Lucas Matthysse... Really? How do you figure? Lucas hits just as hard but is a better boxer who you could argue is really undefeated where it not for robbery losses.

Anyway, not hating but the author of this article raises some seriously valid points.
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