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Old 10-07-2012, 03:13 AM
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Abraham can be a very dangerous opponent when he is in the right state of mind.

You saw it in the second edison miranda fight, and you saw it in the second half of the dirrel fight where he started to catch dirrel and hunt him down.
(Imo he would have won over dirrel by KO if the fight had went on)

In the Ward fight abraham knew it was do or die and his last chance of winning the supersix ,and actually boxed the best I have ever seen him do, that abraham is scary because he is such a damaging puncher also
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Old 10-07-2012, 03:29 AM
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Old 10-07-2012, 05:38 AM
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Old 10-07-2012, 06:02 AM
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So because Andre Ward lost a couple of rounds to Abraham, that means there is no way he could beat Calzaghe in a fantasy matchup.

If that's the case then how can Calzaghe beat Ward when Kessler was able to win four rounds against him but was completely shut out by Ward.

Styles make fights, simple as that.

All the bull**** above is irrelevant when comparing a fantasy matchup.
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Old 10-07-2012, 06:05 AM
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Since doing a less impressive job on froch than old, blown up jermain Taylor did for 11 and a half rounds, and giving a weight drained Chad Dawson his second lop sided schooling, Ward has gained god like status on the internets, and would now dominate and ko calzaghe early doors.

I just can't understand how a limited, plodding midget like Abraham managed to win at least 4 rounds against a man who would toy with a fighter like calzaghe who is absolute levels above Abraham, can you explain that to me

Here's some ideas, Ward was "green" against Abraham, Ward "had a cold"

or you could just start hurling abuse, that always works
At least four rounds? I think you mean at most. If you're generous. If you f*cking hate Andre Ward's guts.

Anyway, if the best you've got is losing rounds, then you certainly lost the Calzaghe debate because he lost a lot more of those early in his career as well.
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Old 10-07-2012, 06:15 AM
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Calzaghe was a joke, if he was American he'd be a journeyman club fighter because he wouldn't even beat most Americans on the club circuit
give the guy some credit....

he beat peter manfredo



wait...

does that count? the stoppage was a bit premature
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Old 10-07-2012, 06:23 AM
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give the guy some credit....

he beat peter manfredo



wait...

does that count? the stoppage was a bit premature
If calzaghe had been in the contender, he would have been eliminated in the forst round by Anthony Bonsente
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Old 10-07-2012, 06:37 AM
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3 people that ward fought have already gone on to become champ again. more than the great calzaghe. calzaghe was great at beating former champs who were washed up and no longer relevant. calzaghe was the last stop before retirement for most. when you got the call to fight calzaghe you knew you were no longer viable as a legit fighter and had to face the slappy music.
Lmao......
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Old 10-07-2012, 06:54 AM
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Ward lost maybe 2 rounds to Abraham. Maybe.
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Old 10-07-2012, 08:53 AM
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calzaghe didn't even beat hopkins
yes he did, and in the US too with Cortez allowing B-Hop to hang on and recovery time for fake low-blows

as to abraham, he came out fast to save his Super 6 (and perhaps in his mind his career), he's not that bad anyway
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