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Old 10-06-2012, 12:53 PM
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The CIA and Mossad never killed anybody. Silly conspiracy theorists, believing that they did!
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The cartels in Mexico have never conspired to control the drug trade!

There is no such thing as a "conspiracy" - all human beings are completely innocent & honest and incapable of anything like that!
I think you're missing the point. He's talking about those far fetched/baseless conspiracies.

Such as... Uh.. JFK wasn't killed at all, he slipped out of a false bottom and is now an easy-listening DJ in Northern Michigan. Etc..
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Old 10-06-2012, 12:56 PM
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There is no such thing as a "conspiracy" - all human beings are completely innocent & honest and incapable of anything like that!
even hollywood glamorized the assassinations carried out by mossad following the munich olympics massacre...
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Old 10-06-2012, 12:56 PM
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I don't understand. I think there was a massive conspiracy in the 60's to mid 70's to kill opposition or what some considered a threat. Look at this, in less than a two year period, 68-69 alone, these people were all assassinated:
My issue with this is that it doesn't require a "massive" conspiracy to kill a bunch of people.



One nutjob shot the Pope. Almost killed one of the most powerful men on earth.

Gary Ridgeway killed between 50 and 100 women.


QUESTION: Was the Munich Olympics Murders a "conspiracy" or merely a terrorist action?
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"Patrick Clawson of the influential neo-con Washington Institute for Near East Studies OPENLY suggests that the US should provoke Iran into taking the first shot.Israel Lobbyist suggests False Flag attack to start war with Iran. Just like 911 in New York causing the deaths of American civilians and soldiers, a million dead Iraqis and for what?"

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Old 10-06-2012, 01:02 PM
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By the way, would anyone care to take a stab at any of these questions regarding 9/11? The presumptive inability to address them does sort of beg the question of how one can be so quick to believe the official story at face value.

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1. Why did the news agencies report that WTC 7 collapsed almost 1/2 hour before it did, even though it was not hit by a plane, only had a few floors on fire, and gave no indication that it was in any serious danger?

2. Why do we still believe the tale of the 19 hijackers when so many of the accused hijackers showed up ALIVE within days? And why do we still believe the fable of the 19 hijackers when the FBI admitted that they are not sure about either the identity of the hijackers or if there were any hijackers at all?

3. Why was WTC 7 rebuilt, reopened and reoccupied with no press attention? Wouldn't this be an important victory in American resolve and perseverance?

4. Why were the NORAD rules changed for the first time several weeks prior to 9/11, taking responsibility/authority for shooting down hijacked planes away from NORAD military command for the first time in its history, and given to a civilian, Donald Rumsfeld, and then returned to NORAD the day after 9/11?

5. Why would hijackers planning on attacking NY and Washington DC drive from Florida, pass both DC and NY, and drive all the way to Maine and hinge this huge operation on a connecting flight from Maine to Boston, where we are told they hijacked their plane? Why wouldn't they fly out of any of the airports that are visible from their targets, like Newark, La Guardia or JFK...or even some of the smaller local airports that would have given them a clear easy path to their target and reduce the amount of time that our air defense systems would have to stop them?

6. Who placed all of those put options on the airlines just prior to the event, as if they knew that the stock prices on those specific airlines would lose a huge amount of value?

7. Why did George W. Bush's Secret Service detail not rush the president to safety when it was evident that the nation was under attack? If the nation was under attack, and they did not know the scope of the attack, and the president's location was known, how did they not worry about being attacked in Florida?. Why did they act as if they knew that there was no threat? And why, when our nation was under attack, did the president not rush into action? If you say he was concerned about upsetting the children, you are the ultimate apologist. He could have told them that his mommy was on the phone and he had to see what she wanted. Our county was supposedly being attacked and he/they waited 20 minutes before they moved. This is the smoking gun of smoking guns.

8. Why did the FBI never list Osama bin Laden as being wanted for 9/11? Actually, we know this one...because they admitted that they had no evidence linking him to the event.

9. Why was their molten metal flowing under the wreckage of the WTC for months? No jet fuel can melt metal, and nothing explainable could melt that much metal and keep it hot enough to remain molten for a month.

10. How did a passport of one of the so called hijackers make it through the huge fireball and end up on the street?

11. Why have photos from the 80+ cameras confiscated at the Pentagon never been released?
Why did the airplane that supposedly crashed at Shanksville vaporize so that nothing remained, not bodies, not luggage, not metal, - nothing - for the first time in aviation history? However, we are told that even though the plane vaporized at Shanksville, a hand-written note from a hijacker was found.
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Old 10-06-2012, 01:05 PM
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Its funny seeing all of the conspiracy theorists on here: 9/11, holocaust deniers, illuminati, NWO... It makes for a good laugh to watch squealpiggy go at it with them.

The 9/11 one gets frustrating though because of how many people still believe it was an inside job.
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Old 10-06-2012, 01:06 PM
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Lol, I've actually always liked conspiracy theorists because I really do enjoy the back and forth I'll have with them. I like trying to "bring out" answers from them.

Lol I want them to convince me sometimes. . . Especially if it involves something cool like aliens, bigfoot, etc. Lol guess I got a lot of romanticism in me! True romanticist at heart!

Some things I don't really consider to be "conspiracy theories" - if they are a legitimate alternate claim/theory, that can at least be buttressed by some evidence.
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My issue with this is that it doesn't require a "massive" conspiracy to kill a bunch of people.



One nutjob shot the Pope. Almost killed one of the most powerful men on earth.

Gary Ridgeway killed between 50 and 100 women.


QUESTION: Was the Munich Olympics Murders a "conspiracy" or merely a terrorist action?
Yes it did take a massive conspiracy to execute these brutal policies and assassinations without the public knowing. It was from the top down to the bottom level local police and the media. Many, many moving parts involved.
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also, I'm not a 9/11 conspiracy theorist. In my opinion, it was simply a terrorist attack and that's it. Was there more to it that we don't know? Certainly.

But I can't really be bothered with people who think it was an inside job, considering what we know about Operation Northwoods, which was a proposed plan to hijack commercial airlines, fly them into buildings and blame it on Cuba to justify an invasion. This is 100% known as fact, this really was real. Fortunately Kennedy personally rejected it but it goes to show the thinking of some top level government officials.
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