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Old 10-04-2012, 07:42 PM
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Manny Pacquiao is now listed under Floyd Mayweather, Andre Ward and King Sergio Martinez. What could have caused this???

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...d-pound-boxers
here is the real deal

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...boxers-nos-1-3

TS posting false sites and info to get attention!
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:42 PM
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Stop talking tecnicalities and making excuses. When Sergio fights someone as good as JMM and bradley let me know.
I hear Sergio might be fighting Floyd someday. Maybe we can seriously talk depending on who wins between Floyd and Sergio.
Me? You're making excuses. I'm telling you how it is and Pac is not at #1, #2, #3. Like I said he is LUCKY to be at #4 based on his achievements (or lack of) since 2009.

and don't be mad that Sergio accepted Pac's demand of 150 lbs.
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:46 PM
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October 2012. Just sayin'.
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:47 PM
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Type Manny Pacquiao in google, then type Floyd. Come back with the results champ

Oh and don't forget Manny has an entire nation watching his fights, does Floyd?
He sure does. Philippines searches Floyd more than anywhere else by far. 2nd most famous man in Philippines.
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:50 PM
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Me? You're making excuses. I'm telling you how it is and Pac is not at #1, #2, #3. Like I said he is LUCKY to be at #4 based on his achievements (or lack of) since 2009.

and don't be mad that Sergio accepted Pac's demand of 150 lbs.
Your making excuses and trying to deny Pac. Who has Sergio fought. Pac has fought major names, he fought major names who were 3 divisions heavier than him on fight night.
Other than that he outclassed his opponents, aside from JMM or Bradley if u want to be cruel to Pac. And you know you do.

Lets just wait till someone brutalises Pac before we bring him down the p4p list. Chavez nearly ko'ed Sergio and if the ball was on the other foot with Pac being nearly ko'ed by Clottey after dominating for 11 roundsnow youd have a case.

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Old 10-04-2012, 08:05 PM
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Look at who Pac has fought back to back since he beat Morales and JMM. Are you trying to tell me JMM or Sergio have fought guys as good as Pac has.
People think JMM deserves to be above Pac solely on being able to hold his own with Pac? But who has JMM fought when not fighting Pac? He can fight the katsidis of this world without verbal assaults on him. Sergio can fight the macklins and barkers of this world.

What was Pacs soft fight?
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:08 PM
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Your making excuses and trying to deny Pac. Who has Sergio fought. Pac has fought major names, he fought major names who were 3 divisions heavier than him on fight night.
Other than that he outclassed his opponents, aside from JMM or Bradley if u want to be cruel to Pac. And you know you do.
Again, do we rank Trever Berbick's win over Ali something special? No.

So what if pac fought "bigger" guys. When he actually fights Champions (granted from a smaller weight class) he loses. Tell me again, WHEN was the last time Pac fought a WW Champion? A JMW Champion? A top 3 WW? A top 3 JMW? Or at least tell me the LAST time Pac fought a ranked WW or JMW that was actually winning in their previous fight? I DARE you.

Again, I'm telling you like it is and I've been saying it for years

To put the rankings into perspective on just HOW much MORE Mayweather and Ward has done than Pac, refer to Larry's post.

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look at it like this in mannys last 2 fights he arguably lost to Jmm..then lost his title to Bradley


In Floyds last 2 he won 2 titles in 2 weight classes

In Wards last 2 he won the super 6 ,another title and became the lineal champion...then beat the lineal 175 champ
Now as for Martinez, he just beat a guy bigger than him (or does size not matter now?).

PWILL II, Dzinziruk, Barker, Macklin, Chavez Jr > Clottey, Margarito, Mosley, JMM, Bradley

The only top oppostion (outside of bradley) that Pac has fought is JMM and well, he lost that fight, just like he beat Bradley at WW. Which if we hold Pac to Floyd's standards (a la Hatton), beating Bradley and or JMM at WW doesnít even count.

Soooooo like I said, it is what it is and Pac hasnít accomplished sh*t since 2009 when he beat Cotto at a catchweight. Ironically, Cotto was his VERY first choice for Dec (not Floyd), only this time Cotto said no to a catchweight.

Also, rumor has it that Bob already has a date and fighter picked for Pac's next fight in April. Again, Floyd is not on Bob's agenda. So don't act surprised if Pac isn't allowed to fight Floyd next.
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:09 PM
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its a good thing and i hope pac knows about this, back to being the underdog!
but please the number 1 is afraid of the number 4.
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:11 PM
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) To put the rankings into perspective on just HOW much MORE Mayweather and Ward has done than Pac, refer to Larry's post.



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I stopped reading after this.
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:13 PM
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