|09-24-2012, 08:00 PM||#11|
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yea win the fight...and bore every one while doing it.
it's not like you're getting paid and people are spending their time and money watching you.
all fighters should just "win the fight" why try to make the fight exciting? gain fans? popularity? just "win the fight" and put on fights like Byrd - Williamson.
most people that say shit like that pretty much only say it because their favorite fighters are boring
im waiting for the "real boxing fans appreciate boring fighters like Derrick Gainer" response
|09-24-2012, 08:02 PM||#12|
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Guys should play to win, not play to blood thirsty fans~ "winning isn't everything it is the only thing"~
If a guy isn't playing to win to the best of his abilities, then he really isn't showing respect to the game.
|09-24-2012, 08:10 PM||#13|
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Anyway no fighters shouldn't have to engage their opponents. If a fight turns out to be a stinker then I blame the visible loser for not being able to bring their opponent into a fight.
At the end of the day if I was at the top of the game I would stay pot shotting my opponent if they couldn't do anything about it. One I wouldn't want to hurt them and two I wouldn't want to put myself in harms way. Just collect the check and chill.
|09-24-2012, 08:15 PM||#14|
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|09-24-2012, 08:29 PM||#15|
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|09-24-2012, 08:36 PM||#16|
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Hit and don't get hit. That's fundamentally the name of the game. After that it's about how much the boxer is willing to risk to give the crowd excitement. Martinez risked a lot by trading with Chavez when he was hurt in the 12th but it probably won him more new fans than the previous 11 rounds combined(although I found it exciting to watch him put on a clinic as well).
So purely from a win/loss perspective, a fighter should try to avoid as many shots as possible(unless they're an infighting slugger and are accustomed to taking a lot of shots) but the reason some fighters are more exciting is because of their vulnerability. It's also the reason people give the likes of Mayweather & Andre Ward a lot of hate because while they're technically brilliant it's not as exciting to watch as a brawl.
Personally, I love to watch someone box well for 12 rounds as much as I love to watch a 3 round brawl because you learn a lot more about the sport from watching people applying their technique and mental strength as opposed to just flailing around madly. I am opposed to people "spoiling" the fight(like you accused Abril of and I think Carlos Molina did against James Kirkland before he was robbed) but it still has points of interest too.
|09-24-2012, 09:20 PM||#18|
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I don't mind pure boxing as long as it's for a tactical reason. You go in there to win and that's it. If you're not a slugger or brawler no one should expect you to be. There are fighters though who fight scared and don't use it to their advatage but we're not talking about that... we're talking about boxers NEEDING to go in to slug to get respect and I disagree. Also saying they're not prize fighters these non sluggers is sort of false... look at the names mentioned and some of them are the biggest guys in the sport.
|09-24-2012, 09:25 PM||#19|
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Wlad could be ripping guys apart impressively but I think those 3 KO loses have ruined him mentally.
|09-24-2012, 09:33 PM||#20|
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There's many ways to win a fight. If your opponent is a face first brawler, that has limited defensive skill, head movement and footwork, box his ass off and make him look like a damn fool.
Vice versa too. If you feel a fighter is "boring" or "fighting like a girl", then find someone to beat him so he won't hold titles. Pressure him, cut the ring off, get him against the ropes and use your skills to solve his defense.
If you feel your "wasting your money" by watching a technically sound defensive fighter, then stop buying his fights.
It's like football. You have exciting teams that pass the ball 50-60 times a game, and "boring" teams that run the football, play good defense and control the clock. There's no right or wrong way to win.
Last edited by -PBP-; 09-24-2012 at 09:36 PM.
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