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Old 09-11-2012, 07:02 PM #11
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Hopkins' run at middleweight is regarded as one of the greatest achievements in boxing history. Felix Sturm... .
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Hopkins' resume is 10 times better and he wins by easy KO.
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Hopkins' resume is 10 times better and he wins by easy KO.
Pretty much sums it up
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Hopkins' resume is 10 times better and he wins by easy KO.

Care to explain why in some detail?


Sturm would outbox Hopkins at long range, use fast hands, excellent jab and fast movements to befuddle Hopkins. Hopkins would look to hit and hold, but with Sturm being a natural MW, Hopkins wouldnt have as big a strength advantage as hes used to having, and Sturm would box his way to a close decision. As said before Sturm has proven a better champ than Taylor, who beat Hopkins twice.

Why did Hopkins steer clear of Sturm?
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Hopkins' run at middleweight is regarded as one of the greatest achievements in boxing history. Felix Sturm... .
It certainly is not.
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Care to explain why in some detail?


Sturm would outbox Hopkins at long range, use fast hands, excellent jab and fast movements to befuddle Hopkins. Hopkins would look to hit and hold, but with Sturm being a natural MW, Hopkins wouldnt have as big a strength advantage as hes used to having, and Sturm would box his way to a close decision. As said before Sturm has proven a better champ than Taylor, who beat Hopkins twice.

Why did Hopkins steer clear of Sturm?
What's understood doesn't have to be explained.
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Care to explain why in some detail?


Sturm would outbox Hopkins at long range, use fast hands, excellent jab and fast movements to befuddle Hopkins. Hopkins would look to hit and hold, but with Sturm being a natural MW, Hopkins wouldnt have as big a strength advantage as hes used to having, and Sturm would box his way to a close decision. As said before Sturm has proven a better champ than Taylor, who beat Hopkins twice.

Why did Hopkins steer clear of Sturm?
What would Bernard Hopkins be doing during all this time?
Standing there and smiling?
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It certainly is not.
most title defenses of all time is not great???
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most title defenses of all time is not great???
Not really because it was a very weak division for the most part.

He beat the best of his time at MW and cleaned out the division and get's credit for that.

Is it that great of an achievement? Not really.

It's one of the reason's Hopkins is an ATG but if he were to retire after beating Trinidad, he wouldn't be considered an ATG for what he did at Middleweight.
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What's understood doesn't have to be explained.
Sounds like no answer 8 times in his career, Hopkins has stepped into the ring and not been good enough to win on those nights. So why the shock that he could possibly lose to top MW like Sturm?

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most title defenses of all time is not great???

By that logic, Sven Ottke's title defences is also one of the greatest achievements in the history of the sport

No thanks, give me Sugar Ray's Leonard's run at WW, which had significantly less defences over top quality opposition than Hopkins' run at MW, which had a lot of defences over awful opposition, when he could have moved up at anytime to fight Byron Mitchell, Frankie Liles, Joe Calzaghe, Roy jones (rematch)
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