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Old 09-11-2012, 05:23 PM
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Default Hopkins MW resume vs Sturms MW resume. Whos is really better & who would win?

If you look at Hopkins MW title wins and the natural MWs who he fought (not eithers losses), so that means not De La Hoya or Trinidad who were naturally smaller fighters, but the Joppys, Holmes, Echoles etc

Then look at Sturms MW title wins consisting of -
B Schenk former WBO MW champ
J Castillo WBA MW champ
S Sylvester former IBF MW champ became champ after losing to Sturm

plus other names -
H Cherifi past his best former WBC MW champ
G Lorenzo alledged future Pavlik opponent
K Gevor title challenger at MW & SMW
K Sato (undefeated)
R Griffin
J Pittman (undefeated)
N G Alcoba (undefeated)
M Maseo
R Varon
H J Velazco

You find that their MW resumes arent as far apart as people would like you to believe.
We know Hopkins has a problem dealing with fast 2 handed fighters, losing to Jones, Taylor and Calzaghe, and Sturm is a fast 2 handed fighter

So who would win at MW Hopkins or Sturm?

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Old 09-11-2012, 05:26 PM
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If you look at Hopkins MW title wins and the natural MWs who he fought (not eithers losses), so that means not De La Hoya or Trinidad who were naturally smaller fighters, but the Joppys, Holmes, Echoles etc
So Tito doesn't count because he was too small but Joppy, whom Tito destroyed in 5, counts?
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Old 09-11-2012, 05:26 PM
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another thing, hopkins decided to fight the loser of de la hoya- sturm
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Old 09-11-2012, 05:39 PM
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Old 09-11-2012, 05:40 PM
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Hopkins didnt loose for 10 years at middleweight and fought everyone that was there to fight. Sturms reign is on its way to 10 years and in that time consists of a KO loss, a gift decision and him outright avoiding major names that passed through the division such at Taylor, Winky, Pavlik, Williams and Sergio.

When there were no names at 160, Hopkins fought guys coming up and then moved up in weight himself to make the big fights with Tarver, Pavlik, Dawson, Winky, Pascal and Calzaghe.

You really have to go out on a limb to even compare them which is why you want to throw out the Trinidad middleweight win even though it was a middleweight defense after trinidad KOed a full size middleweight his last fight. Theres no reason to believe trinidad couldnt KO some of those guys with less than 20 fights that Sturm has been fighting.
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Old 09-11-2012, 05:41 PM
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another thing, hopkins decided to fight the loser of de la hoya- sturm
tell me one fighter in the world who wouldnt fight de la hoya over sturm. ill wait
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Old 09-11-2012, 05:41 PM
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another thing, hopkins decided to fight the loser of de la hoya- sturm

Exactly, when Sturm would have been the much better win
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Old 09-11-2012, 05:43 PM
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Old 09-11-2012, 05:59 PM
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Old 09-11-2012, 06:00 PM
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lol. tito was going through divisions. for some ****ed up, incredibly deluded reason, he had his eyes set on roy. he counts.
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