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Old 09-09-2012, 06:35 PM
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It was the Klitschko team that promised him and the fans Vitali would fight the Chisora/Haye winner. So "deserving" doesn't really come into it.........
No it was frank warren's idea and vitali's manager just said ok... vitali doesn't owe haye absolutely nothing.
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Old 09-09-2012, 06:35 PM
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it's very simple. if vitali believes he can still preform he'll do it. if not he will retire and there is nothing wrong with that. he is not the one who is retiring in 31st nor the one who didn't fight all the available contenders over the years.
is there anyone in here who seriously believes that vitali wouldn't fight haye if he is in his good age (not to say prime). you have the right to retire if you are older than the most great hws were when they retired.*

haye should go after wlad if vitali choses to retire. beat some decent contenders and build up the hype again.*
This guy doesn't want to fight others, although there are fighters around who could beat him, he just wants big money fights, so he uses his mouth to promote them. He forgets that he also has to present some credible sort of opposition when he gets a big money fight. This he has not done, so the only way he'll get this fight-which he's already run away from- is by taunting, lying, daring, throwing himself on the ground and rolling around with his eyeballs popping out; anything to attract attention, and fool the cash customers.......again !
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No it was frank warren's idea and vitali's manager just said ok... vitali doesn't owe haye absolutely nothing.
I agree he doesn't owe him nothing, he owes him and the fans a fight.
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Old 09-09-2012, 06:37 PM
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Who backed out and ducked when the contract had already been signed? That's right Haye.
wtff r u talking about haye signed a contract in december to fight vitali but vitali *****ed out,at the klitschko/chisora post fight presser u can clearly hear haye say"i accepted your off y u not fighting me"
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haye will fight like he always does against tall fighters. he'll run and throw nothing because he's scared of getting hit
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Vitali did...................... LOL
because lennox retired!
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And ofcourse haye didn't deserve the fight. nobody gets two title shots in 3 fights regardless how good he is..
Several fighters have. Morales got 3 title shots in a row, losing all three of them.
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Old 09-09-2012, 06:39 PM
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because lennox retired!
And? Plenty of fighters have fought a champ and lost and then fought a different champ in the next couple of fights.
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Old 09-09-2012, 06:40 PM
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No it was frank warren's idea and vitali's manager just said ok... vitali doesn't owe haye absolutely nothing.
please get youre facts right, at that press conference before frank warren even mentioned haye fighting chisora u can clearly hear bernd boente telling haye to have a "box off" with chisora
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Old 09-09-2012, 06:41 PM
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I agree he doesn't owe him nothing, he owes him and the fans a fight.
why would he owe fans fight with haye if he feels he can't preform as he wants to. he is 41!!! name me another great hw who was forced to prove himself in his 40+
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