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Old 09-09-2012, 01:28 PM
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After a long WW career, Zab has rebuilt himself at 140
Zab hasn't rebuilt anything, who has he beaten?
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Old 09-09-2012, 01:37 PM
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Shane Mosley was very susessful after moving down. He beat Margarito. Leon spinks moved down in weight successfully.
Zab Judah,
The great Henry armstrong,
Bernard Hopkins started his career at light heavyweight.
Bob Fitzsimmons heavyweight to light heavyweight champ
Andre ward himself won gold at light heavyweight then went pro at 160
Carlos ortiz welterweight to lightweight
Tommy hearns won light heavyweight then back to 160
emille griffin 154 then 147

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Old 09-09-2012, 01:39 PM
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Byrd went down to LW, not Cruiserweight. lost to Shaun George I think. btw good examples but the Pacquiao examples are strange since it was only about 2 pounds catchweight. Byrd and Roy went down over 20 or 30 pounds. Ray Leonard also went down at least one weight class to fight Terry Norris. So the Pacquiao fights dont fit in there, but if its true that Cotto wasnt allowed to rehydrate, then you can take it as an example
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Old 09-09-2012, 01:43 PM
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Pernell won against JCC.
Mayweather against Marquez
Pacquiao against Hatton
RJJ against Trinidad
Viloria against Solis
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Old 09-09-2012, 01:49 PM
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not always true...hatton moved back down to 140 after losing to floyd at 147..and he went on to win two fights (one of which was a stoppage against malignaggi...first time malignaggi had been stopped) before losing to pac. also marquez went back down to lightweight after losing to floyd at ww and beat juan diaz again and destroyed katsidis...

I just think that 7 pounds was just too much to lose...there should have at least been a catchweight for ward vs dawson..would have been healthier for dawson especially considering he hadn't fought at smw in like 6 years.

Yeah but those fighters did not drop down a weight-class fast like Chad did.They had plenty of time to drop down in weight without it effecting them plus their bodies could handle coming down in weight cause the higher weight class was to big for them anyway.
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Old 09-09-2012, 02:00 PM
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Its true Bryd went down to Light Heavy. One of the things he noted when he fought Shawn George was the speed difference. He couldn't handle the speed after having campaigned at Heavy. I think the same thing affected Dawson. The speed difference between the top guys at SMW and LH is dramatic. Dawson has good speed, but it didn't compare with Wards at all. He got hit with punches he couldn't see or anticipate, and Ward's foot speed was just too much
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Old 09-09-2012, 02:12 PM
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Majority of those fighters complained about weight while Dawson said Wards skill was to much. He has said time and time again weight wasnt issue. Stop making excuses for him!
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Old 09-09-2012, 02:14 PM
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Zab hasn't rebuilt anything, who has he beaten?
The man in your avatar, at least officially.

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Shane Mosley was very susessful after moving down. He beat Margarito. Leon spinks moved down in weight successfully.
Zab Judah,
The great Henry armstrong,
Bernard Hopkins started his career at light heavyweight.
Bob Fitzsimmons heavyweight to light heavyweight champ
Andre ward himself won gold at light heavyweight then went pro at 160
Carlos ortiz welterweight to lightweight
Tommy hearns won light heavyweight then back to 160
emille griffin 154 then 147

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Pernell won against JCC.
Mayweather against Marquez
Pacquiao against Hatton
RJJ against Trinidad
Viloria against Solis
Don't forget Paul Williams who moved up and down in weight easily. He said it was because he was top heavy. Guess what kind of body Dawson has?
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Old 09-09-2012, 02:35 PM
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LETS LOOK AT THIS HISTORY OF THE SPORT

SUGARY RAY LEONARD
RJJ VS TARVER
TARVER VS Pp[LOMS
COTTO VS PAC
MOSLEY vs PAC
BYRD MOVED BACK DOWN TO CRUISERWEIGHT YEARS AGO AND WAS KTFO

THOSE ARE JSUT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD

IF YOU MOVE BACK DOWN IN WEIGHT YOU LOSE, PERIOD. THIS FIGHT MIGHT HAVE DESTROYED DAWSON PHYSICALLY AND MENTALLY.
Not really. Look at Miguel Vazquez. He is now consider the best lightweight.


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What?
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