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Old 08-27-2012, 01:25 PM
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Arreola is being over-protected by his manager, Al Haymon.

They turned town a title fight with Wladimir for November, because he's waiting for a shot at the WBC title after Vitali retires.

Some of his fights against faded HWs and journeymen were televised by HBO because of Haymon's influence.
Do you have any proof Haymon is to blame?
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Old 08-27-2012, 01:29 PM
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Old 08-27-2012, 01:34 PM
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That's why I never get excited about prospects. You guys like to hype up up coming fighters like they're actually the sh-t. You put high expectations for them when they haven't even fought top fighters, then when they do, you claim they were "exposed". Nothing was exposed, the only thing that gets exposed around here is people's bad judgement of which fighter will be good and which one won't.
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Old 08-27-2012, 01:43 PM
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That's why I never get excited about prospects. You guys like to hype up up coming fighters like they're actually the sh-t. You put high expectations for them when they haven't even fought top fighters, then when they do, you claim they were "exposed". Nothing was exposed, the only thing that gets exposed around here is people's bad judgement of which fighter will be good and which one won't.
How cynical are you, Kev? It's fun to follow/ hype/ analyze up-and-coming prospects. For every 10 prospects you follow, maybe 1, 2 or none will do something substantial. It's part of being a boxing fan. We like to judge fighters and make predictions...
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Old 08-27-2012, 01:50 PM
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Do you have any proof Haymon is to blame?
Al Haymon calls the shots for Arreola and through his close friend has a big influence on what fights are televised by HBO.

Watch Arreola-Vitali in high definition. You can see it was Haymon not Arreola's trainer who decided to stop the fight. He came over and told him to stop it because he didn't want to see his "property" permanently damaged.

Al Haymon has surpassed Don King and Bob Arum and has become the most influential man in boxing.
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Old 08-27-2012, 01:51 PM
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Al Haymon calls the shots for Arreola and through his close friend has a big influence on what fights are televised by HBO.

Watch Arreola-Vitali in high definition. You can see it was Haymon not Arreola's trainer who decided to stop the fight. He came over and told him to stop it because he didn't want to see his "property" permanently damaged.
But you are saying Haymon is the one stopping him from fighting certain people....do you have any facts to back this up?
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But you are saying Haymon is the one stopping him from fighting certain people....do you have any facts to back this up?
Haymon is his manager, he's the one who decides who Arreola fights.
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He clearly lost his two more important fights.
His best win was against McCline i think.
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His best win was against an old Jameel McCline. That says it all.
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He clearly lost his two more important fights.
His best win was against McCline i think.
His win over Travis Walker was impressive IMO. It was a modern day Foreman-Lyle where both guys were on deck and got up to slug it out...
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